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Start with a 22 and not on the horse. A long lead and start target shooting while holding the horse on the long lead and gradually work closer but be very careful not to shoot near the ears or anypart of the head. Off to the side or rear, never near the ears. The 22 is mild and they quickly get use to it. Once you can shoot the 22 off the horse start with the 38 from the ground and work onto the horse, again no shooting near the head or ears.