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Just wondering what bit would you consider to be just a step above a snaffle? I ride Oscar in a French Linked Hanging Cheek Snaffle and hes just wayy to strong for me. Ive tried schooling and all that but once he gets excited theres no way i can hold him back. Im physically not strong enough:/ Just wondering whats the next step up from that? I dont want to get a gag or anything like that...
 

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I would try a single jointed snaffle. That seems to me like the most logical step up. and maybe in a thinner mouthpiece?
 

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I would try a single jointed snaffle. That seems to me like the most logical step up. and maybe in a thinner mouthpiece?
That's what I had before the hanging cheek and was told the hanging cheek would be slightly stronger than it..
 

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A thinner bit would help, if you got a single jointed snaffle it has a nutcracker effect on the horse's palate so you can't pull really hard and then stop and then pull really hard and then stop...etc. I would also try a copper roller bit, it relaxes the horses mouth. It would be better to have a stronger bit that you aren't yanking the horse's mouth with than a gentle one because you will damage your horse's mouth bars, palate, teeth and tongue. If you really need, go to a kimberwick. It is less severe than other curb bits(make sure you get jointed). Put the chain on a bit loosely and put the reins in the top hole(less leverage). You will have to use lighter hands with this bit, that is much better than yanking his face. Never have lots of hard contact with this bit just enough so he can feel your hands.
 

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A thinner bit would help, if you got a single jointed snaffle it has a nutcracker effect on the horse's palate so you can't pull really hard and then stop and then pull really hard and then stop...etc. I would also try a copper roller bit, it relaxes the horses mouth. It would be better to have a stronger bit that you aren't yanking the horse's mouth with than a gentle one because you will damage your horse's mouth bars, palate, teeth and tongue. If you really need, go to a kimberwick. It is less severe than other curb bits(make sure you get jointed). Put the chain on a bit loosely and put the reins in the top hole(less leverage). You will have to use lighter hands with this bit, that is much better than yanking his face. Never have lots of hard contact with this bit just enough so he can feel your hands.
Ok thanks fr your advice:)
Yeah i was thinking about how its better to have a strong bit and barely touch the reins then have a gentle one and be pulling the mouth off him.
Ok thanks a lot:)
 

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You could try a slow twist full cheek, or a Dr Bristol, or a Kimberwhicke.
Thanks for your advice:)
I googled the images of bits and just wondering is the Dr Bristol different than the French link eggbut snaffle? They look quite similair but i don't know:/
i was thinking of trying a kimblewhick..
 

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The next step would be a dee ring with hooks. I would keep the mouth piece the same, a french link. The hooks would give you more leverage if you're not strong enough. I wouldn't go to a narrower mouth piece. That's just going to cause pain which may be what he is avoiding by running through the bit in the first place.

With this sort of cheek piece you would attach your head stall and reins to the hooks. Its going to give you some leverage that you wouldn't have with a loose ring.
 

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The Dr Bristol's center piece should be more square-ish and set at an angle. So when you pull back, the edge of the center piece presses in to the tounge. It's not painful, it's just a bit more "umph" than a flat french link.

Many catalogs and bit companies are mis-labeling dr bristols. THIS is a traditional Dr Bristol bit.


Dr Bristol Eggbutt Snaffle bit, Dr Bristol Bits,


Full Cheek Dr. Bristol Eggbutt Snaffle Bit

This image is HUGE, but it shows the angle of the middle piece.
https://www.rainbowsendtack.com/product%20images/Eng%20Bits%20Page%202/BE20%20Dr%20Bristol%20Full%20Cheek%20Snaffle%20Bit.jpg
 

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The Dr Bristol's center piece should be more square-ish and set at an angle. So when you pull back, the edge of the center piece presses in to the tounge. It's not painful, it's just a bit more "umph" than a flat french link.

Many catalogs and bit companies are mis-labeling dr bristols. THIS is a traditional Dr Bristol bit.


Dr Bristol Eggbutt Snaffle bit, Dr Bristol Bits,


Full Cheek Dr. Bristol Eggbutt Snaffle Bit

This image is HUGE, but it shows the angle of the middle piece.
https://www.rainbowsendtack.com/pro... 2/BE20 Dr Bristol Full Cheek Snaffle Bit.jpg

aw kk thanks 4 that:)
my friend has given me a loan of a kimblewick just to try out and see how it goes:p
 

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I'd say that kimberwick is the way to go. It will give you a bit more leverage for those times your not strong enough to have an effect. Its basicly a snaffle with hooks to attach the headstall and reins. If it will have a curb strap, that will give the added benifit of the curb pressure.
Good luck with it :)
 
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