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I currently feed him one scoop of the folgers coffee cans (11.5 ounce) of oats in the morning and night and two flakes of hay in morning and night. And grass but he's not out eating it all the time.
As soon as I get all my exams and regents done in school he will start being worked.

Where can I improve his diet?
 

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If he's overweight, cut out the "extras," like oats. If you feel the need to give him some oats, give him a half a handful.
Next, is he out on enough pasture to sustain him? If so, there's really no need to feed extra hay.
It's hard to say because I'm not understanding the "and grass, but he's not eating it all the time" sentence - is he on grass 24/7, or gets let out for a couple hours a day?
 

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I don't think it's the oats, the vet said it was a good choice because it's a good "filler" food. During the day he's always in out in the pasture that doesn't grow grass and is never locked in his stall so he is always running around. When I get home around 3 I put him in the grass pasture for 3 plus/less hours a day.

"Extra" hay? what amount should you feed?
The problem is the hay keeps him out of trouble..​
 

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If he is over weight stop feeding the oats. Oats are used to put weight on horses. My haflingers would founder if I started feeding them oats on a regular basis. They get a handful as a treat once in a while and that is it.

An easy keeper just needs pasture/grass hay and a good horse mineral. Oh - and lots of excersize. That is it.
 

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I don't think it's the oats, the vet said it was a good choice because it's a good "filler" food.​
If he's overweight then he doesn't need filler food. Let me give you an example in human terms. Ensure is a nutritional drink. It's pretty calorically dense. If you get enough calories by eating food you'll get fat if you add Ensure to your diet. There's nothing wrong with Ensure; you just don't need it.

If your horse is overweight it doesn't need oats.

Did the vet say your horse is overweight?
 

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Great post, Joshie, that explains it perfectly.

If your horse is overweight, feeding him oats is not going to help the problem. Cutting them out will.

If your horse has access to grass, the amount of hay you need to feed will be minimal. If your horse has no access to grass, then you will have to feed hay.
 

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I am on an oppisite page here I think, Horses are foragers (sp) not grazers. Here in MN the grass is lush so many horses here can't be on it all day. I have 4 horses and 3 are very easy keepers. One of the 4 is a mini thats shetland sized he gets all the hay he wants no oats or grain just a grass pelleted ration and no grass till fall. My Morgan is also limited to the grass. I give free choice hay but it is scattered all over they have to move to get it.
 

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Is it right though to let Gunther see my other horse get grain, that he has been on his whole life?. They are just a really nutricious, high in energy and full of amino acids (not to mention cheap). I really don't want to cut them out of his diet fully. Maybe just feed them once a day?
The vet didn't say he was but A family member who went to school for equine science did.

Joshie, see if you knew Gunther you would understand. If he is hungry or isn't munching on something he gets himself into alot of trouble. When he went to the trainer she said the same thing and that was to keep him busy... she learned the hard way. He will destroy everyyything if not. It's a behavior thing and we tried the whole "were not rewarding you for destroying things" approach but it made everything worse and never got better.. we have tried many other ways but none of them worked. He's just one of those horses.

He has a run-in stall where he can either go into his stall or outside and he's never locked in, unless raining or snowing. We put his hay flakes in various spots so he has to find them in the pasture and he can't go out and eat grass all day because he would eat himself to sickness. So when I get home he and my other horse get switched to the other pasture so they can eat grass.
 

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ok he is getting roughly 3lbs of oats a day here a 50lb bag of oats cost $10 so it is costing you 60 cents a day for an unbalanced diet for amino acids and sugars and starches oats are 56% sugars and starches

bag of Ration balancer is $20 and most horses do great on 1lb a day so 40 cents a day for balanced nutrition with plenty of vitamins, minerals and amino acids without the sugars and starches or empty calories

Your vet is old school ;)
 

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My father helps out the local farmer who makes it so oats are only $5-8, it depends on the season. I have no idea where to get any RB, we don't have A feed store close or a credit card.
My vet might be old school, but he's the best we can get ;)


Toys we have tried, he never really was interested. He has a few jolly balls and toys in his stall and they look like brandnew. This week is the last week of my tests so I will have alot of free time, I can't wait!
 

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if you PM or post your zip code I might be able to find something close to you ...
 

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There are quite a few replies already but consider the basics. A horse whether fat or not needs the proper nutrients to remain healthy that often pyre pasture will not allow especially if it is reduced. An oats filler isn't needed when they are fat already and on pasture, you don't need the calories and the nutrients in 12 fluid oz of oats isn't a large benefit.

To reduce the weight while providing and adequate diet consider feeding a micro nutrient like KER IR PelletIt was designed as a concentrated, low-calorie, low-starch source of vitamins and trace minerals. This stuff isn't a diet pill though :lol:, to help reduce the weight add a grazing muzzle during the daytime and if needed take it off at night. Many horses especially IR horses and ponies on pasture with lower work loads need a grazing muzzle for much of the year. You may or may not need to go this route.
 

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Thanks =)


Peggy thanks for the offer, I did some searching myself and found one 45 mins away. I will go and look at that mill sometime this week.
 

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If your horse is causing trouble, it's because he is bored. It's not a behavioral problem, and it's very fixable. The solution is to stimulate your horse, not feed him more food than he needs.
 

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I feed my horses with grass ration sometimes with carrots or apples chopped up in it. I have 2 horses that would eat all the time too. I know how hard it is. My 2 fuller figured guys really slimmed way down on free choice hay ration and no lush grass grazing. Let them eat the pasture down to nothing or mow it down to nothing and let them walk all over getting their hay. Read pasture paridise by Jamie Jackson. keeps them busy and eating all day. I would get mad if I only could eat when someone else said it was ok and I would eat EVERYTHING they gave me. Free choice they dont eat half as much as they do with 2 meals a day. Really
 

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I say the best thing for a over weight horse is exercise, my arabian is slightly over weight and I've been taking him out for about 1-2 hrs.a day every two days, lots of jogging/trotting.
 
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