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I have a question for everyone.
Do you feed grain everyday?
My dad does, I think it is to much everyday. I give grain when they work, or when they have been good. (In my eyes grain is a treat).
But my horses are both very easy keepers.
IMO the only horse that my family owns that should get grain everyday is Cecil.
Pinto and Kodee are both overweight and I try to tell my dad, but well I honestly don't know why he gives teh 2 chunkers grain everyday.

What do you do?

Oh, I give my horses hay everyday in winter, and in summer they are the only 2 in the pasture so they have grass all day. But I also ride more so they get grain.
 

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I feed a small amount of pelleted feed every day (1 lb) year around. Mine are on 24/7 hay in winter and grass pasture in summer.
I like to give them a little something that is balanced nutrients in case something is missing in the hay. I don't have my hay tested.
I also use it as a time to take a look at everyone. I check them for any boo-boos at that time as well. Plus its a nice training tool, I whistle they all come running cause they know they are going to get some food :lol:
I could probably do the same with tested hay and a mineral block :?
 

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I feed grain every day, 2 times a day. My horse is in hard work though.
For horses that are easy keepers and not in work, they should only be getting hay, minerals and water.

I used to board with an old cowboy that only fed alfalfa hay and oats. In large quantities. A feeding would consist of about 5-6lbs of hay and at least 1lb of oats. Needless to say all the horses were absolutely obese no matter how hard you rode them. He killed quite a few of the horses out of the kindness of his heart.
To keep your dad from getting to that point, get him out to some nutrition seminars and even get an equine nutritionist to your place to evaluate your horses. Good luck!
 

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twice a day, every day.

Uma, even when not in work, needs grain to stay at a good weight. She's a big horse and needs the extra calories.

Demi is just on grain because when she is in work, she needs it. But I don't want to keep switching up her delicate digestive system

Ginisee is 18, needs senior support grain.
 

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I feed Rosie grain everyday...twice a day, along with 2 flakes of grass hay each tiem. She was bone thin when I got her, so needs the extra groceries. I'm hoping that when spring comes and the grass comes in that I'll be able to cut it back a little bit.
 

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yup. my horse gets grain in te afternoon...the mash a little later.
btu the horses that are inside get grain twice a day.
most of the horses get supplements and stuff so they need grain twice a day or else they dont get their supplements.
and some are just hard keepers :p
 

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I absolutely feed my guy twice a day, every single day.

He gets 4 lbs of Purina Senior twice a day - A.M and P.M, plus his suppliments - whether he is at work or not.

He also has his face stuffed in a round bale 24/7 - but he is a TB, a hard keeper and 20.
 

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I think if you're going to feed your horse everyday then do so, but if you're going to skip than don't bother feeding them grain. I give my horses grain in the morning and night. Grain isn't just for a "treat", most of the time we can't provide horses with the nutrients they need so that is how we can help replace it. Hay never has all the nutrients grass does and grass sometimes doesn't have all the nutrients horses need either.

That is if you feed vitamin/mineral enriched feed, not sweetfeed or corn or something like that.
 

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I vouch for feeding the same feed everyday -- just adjusting the amount as needed. I give my horses pellets every day. My two would be fine on just hay, but this way I accomplish a few things: training to come, behave and "go to their places"; training to see me or somebody else, everyday; I check them out even if I don't have time to groom; if I ever have to add something to their feed, they are already in a routine and I only have the additive to deal with for any potential side effects, not the additive and the pellets.
 

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If the easy keepers are fat, then they would do better on a vitamin supplement with some hay pellets everyday. That way you can still use grain as a treat, but they'll get less calories on a daily basis. IMO, most horses still need some vitamin/mineral supplementation, even if they're fat.

My horses get ADM's StayStrong metabolic Minerals. This is a complete concentrated feed with all of the vitamins and minerals they need, plus amino acids and digestive aids, and they only need 1 lb a day. My fatties only get this. My hard working horses get this plus some alfalfa pellets. My "hard keepers" get this, plus alfalfa pellets, plus some Cocosoya oil. It works well for me and I ensure that my horses all get good nutrition, no matter how much "feed" they need.

Here's a link: StaySTRONG low starch mineral feed supplement

If you don't have a local dealer, you can order it online. One bag lasts one horse just over one month.
 

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I feed my horse grain once a day, only because she is still growing. Personally I think that a lot of people feed way to much grain, but I do agree that if you are going to feed grain, unless you stop working the horse for a week or more at a time, that you should not stop feeding grain for a day or two and then feed it again. Most horses should be getting all the nutrients they need out of the hay they get, generally a mix of alfalfa and grass, or something like that, and don't need all the extra grain. The obvious exceptions being horses that are still growing and often pregnant mares, horses that are in heavy work/competition, and horses that are thin, or hard keepers. I don't have my hay tested, though it is a good idea if you are able, but as long as it isn't obviously poor quality, I believe that between that and the mineral and salt blocks my horse has, that she gets enough nutrients to keep going in a moderate amount of work if she weren't still growing. She gets 2 1/2 lbs of Omelene 300 for right now, but once she's done growing, no more grain until she starts doing heavy work, and competing regularly. I read a good book Understanding Equine Nutrition, by Karen Briggs. Great book, and maybe that would help both you and your dad. Sorry for such a long post.
 

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If the easy keepers are fat, then they would do better on a vitamin supplement with some hay pellets everyday. That way you can still use grain as a treat, but they'll get less calories on a daily basis. IMO, most horses still need some vitamin/mineral supplementation, even if they're fat.

My horses get ADM's StayStrong metabolic Minerals. This is a complete concentrated feed with all of the vitamins and minerals they need, plus amino acids and digestive aids, and they only need 1 lb a day. My fatties only get this. My hard working horses get this plus some alfalfa pellets. My "hard keepers" get this, plus alfalfa pellets, plus some Cocosoya oil. It works well for me and I ensure that my horses all get good nutrition, no matter how much "feed" they need.

Here's a link: StaySTRONG low starch mineral feed supplement

If you don't have a local dealer, you can order it online. One bag lasts one horse just over one month.

My horses have the GrowStrong mineral blocks in their stalls. I would love for them to have it in the pastures too but I board so I cant do that.
I havent looked over ADMs website in some time but the staystrong looks like it may be looking into! Glad to know there is someone else that uses their products......The dealer doesnt travel to my town , I have to drive about 45 min to get any of their products , but I didnt know you could order stuff on line too!
 

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Both of mine are on Banks mill pelleted feeds.
Aidan gets 2qts AM&PM of Endurance, it's kept his weight on but with the winter going and him working more we'll see how I need to adjust that.

Sonata is on 1qt Advance AM&PM but I am cutting her back lil bit by lil bit to see what a good balance is for her cuz now she is looking chubby to me.

They get hay twice a day but always have food left in their bin so I guess I could say they have it all day.
 

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Here are pictures of my horses' weight.
Horses that I take care of, THey are all out of shape from sitting in the pastures for winter.
Romeo:

Demi: She is a big girl and a very easy keeper.


Horses at my dad's barn:
PintoBean. He used to be a very muscular horse, but now he is a chunk :-(. I am going to work him this summer along with Romeo.

^The picture doesn't really show it, but he is getting a couple little fat pockets. I am going to bring it up to my dad today...
Kodee, he was really fat when we got him, and he now gets feed everyday which I keep telling my dad he is going to founder, but he doesn't seem to listen.

Cecil, he is the 23 year old that gets senior feed everyday.
 

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There is more of an issue, imo, with varying the feed program from one day to the next than from either feeding grain every day or not at all. We do feed pelleted feed (we are using strategy now, were using alfalfa pellets prior to that) daily. I don't really like putting variables into a horse's diet with feeding a rich food like grains in an on again/off again fashion. I have always been of the opinion that consistency is very important. Just feeding it on days they work really offers no more benefit to them than not feeding it at all.
That being said, I don't feel that grain is necessary at all for many horses - but there is nothing wrong with including it in a balanced diet.
 

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Where Dream came from, she was only grained when she was worked. She was sooo overweight! When we finally moved her, she was grained everyday and she LOST weight. Inconsistency is NOT good for your horses diet. All grains are not the same, if you feed a fat horse sweet feed, it's going to get fatter. If you feed a fat horse a vitamin supplement or something, it's going to maintain it's weight.
 

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The feed I have is just a generic sweet feed that I get for a treat when they work. I haven't noticed any weight gain in my horses and I have been doing this with Romeo for 2 years. Is there any minerals I could get that would help them if I am not giving them any feed? Would a mineral block work??
 

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I wanted to amend my answer to say that in the summer when the pasture is lush, I stop supplementing feed and leave out a mineral block. SO yes a mineral block is fine.
 

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Mine get a good quality hay, minerals, salt block and Crystalix tubs. The only one that gets grain is my baby, who gets junior pellets twice a day.
 

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I feed twice a day everyday BUT my horses get NO GRAINS at all... they get 1lb of ration balancer PER DAY for nutrition and I add calories as needed
 
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