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So for my birthday I took Eve for a road ride! Moki had Jynx hand walking and working on manners, and we were heading down the road to meet up with the kid on Justus so in total I don't think we went more than a couple hundred feet...but it was new for her and she took it like a champ! After the first pic we had 3 dirtbikes go past us and I thought we were goners...last summer they'd speed past throwing rocks at us just to watch the horses rear up. As soon as we knew they were coming down the road we were on I got off Eve and turned her around to see what loud thing was coming up to her, she kinda danced for the first one but the second 2 were ok. These guys though, I hope they come around more often...they slowed but passed at a reasonable speed - not doddling but not roaring past us. Once they passed I swung back up (no saddle) and we carried on! Met up with Justus and turned around to head home! Nothing too exciting, but as her first time off property, I thought it was very exciting!

Heading out!
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/edit.jpg

After the dirtbikes
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/edit2.jpg

Talking about the bikes LOL
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Failed pose because the sun was in the wrong spot!
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Better!
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/edit5.jpg

And LOVE this pic...made it my profile picture on FB!
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/profile.jpg

Everything's melting/melted around here so the roads are the only safe, dry footing available...just walking and limited trotting, but it's nice to keep her going in the wet season. I think I'm going to look into getting her shod for the summer. I know MANY of the posters here have shod horses, what are the benefits/downfalls? I don't have a barn, she's outside 24/7, there is mud around so I'm aware she may occasionally pull a shoe...but what kinds of things should I be watching out for? She won't be getting shod til end of April so I have time to really think on it...but she doesn't have strong feet, being a TB/Clydie. Her walls are thin, she's prone to deep cracks, and we'll be doing a bit of road riding and trails. Again, mostly walk and trot, but it's still hard on the tootsies. Any advice or personal experience with shoes would be appreciated!

Here's a pic of her feet after a fresh trim by my farrier
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/Feet/March154.jpg
 

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Congrats! Looks like you had alot of fun!
 

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Keep her feet picked out but don't be obsessive about it and watch for thrush if she can't get out of the wet. Don't let the barefoot gurus discourage you from shoeing. If you can't keep your horse on a low startch diet and in a completely dry, hard pen and you want to ride on trails and pavement you are going to need shoes.
 

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I agree with Kevin, shoes might be appropriate for her. Her feet look a little pancaked(flared) anyhoo, so shoes can bring them back into a more tight vertical shape (no sole view, so I am guessing btw). if she has cracking issues, I will bet she has too much wall coming in contact with the ground. Shoes can help with all of this if that is the way you choose to go.


If it is really muddy you might want to invest in some pea gravel or rubber mats to create a dry firm spot for her to stand and get out of the goop.


She is a lovely girl btw, glad she did so well on her first off the property ride.
 

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She looks a lot like Romeo, the horse that belongs to the lady I ride with. Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!

I agree with Kevin also. Only if you are going to be riding on the road and in the mountains on rocky ground a lot, I would get the borum welded onto the shoes. It helps them keep traction. Also, I had a horse shod that lived in an open field. Granted he could have gotten in the barn had he wanted to, I only had him lose a shoe once. It was only about 3 weeks after he had been shod. I called the farrier back and he came out and replaced it free of charge. He also checked to see that the other 3 were tight. The farrier I have since I have moved also has the same policy. He says that if a shoe comes off within 5 weeks of putting it on, he'll replace it. I do have him out every 6 weeks religiously though.
 

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Thanks everyone! She's my baby...

Kevinshorses - funny you should mention thrush as she's started into her first mild case of thrush last week. I've cleaned her feet out, brushed off the rest, and applied ThrushOff once a day since. There wasn't much change in the couple days so I brought her in and have her in the sand round pen to keep her out of the mud while it clears up. Might look into some Durasole, was recommended by a friend. I'm in no way against shoes, it's just the only farrier I ever had shoe one of my horses, one came off 10 days later and he refused to fix it or take the other off...I ended up using a screwdriver :shock: Never had them shod again. Now it's been 6 years though and I realize not all farriers are like that, I trust mine, and so do his MANY show clients that have their horses shod. I also thought she looked very splayed or panned with her feet...but that's just the conformation of them. There's a small flare at the quarters, but it's nothing huge. She just has wierd feet and I think I need her shod to be comfortable. Here's a recent pic of the underside of her hoof...I've been taking pics regularly to monitor the thrush.

Right hind
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/Picture*****z/Eve/Feet/Thrush005.jpg

With all this being said, I don't want to use shoes to give her a cute little QH hoof...I want her to keep whatever's natural to her and whatever's FUNCTIONAL for her - my idea isn't to change her feet, but to make them strong enough to keep up.
 

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I want her to keep whatever's natural to her and whatever's FUNCTIONAL for her - my idea isn't to change her feet, but to make them strong enough to keep up.
Having said that ^^ you would probably find this site really interesting, whether you decide to shoe or not -
Barefoot for Soundness
Although it is a barefoot-promoting site, it has loads of info about correct shape, parts of the hoof and their function, faults in the hoof, etc. and I think it's educational relevant to everyone.

And Eve is gorgeous as always!
 

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Those are no small flares, they are huge! That all needs to be taken off, all the way around. That is most likely why she is cracking.


The pink line shows her actual hoof and what size it should be. The yellow is all overgrowth and needs to be trimmed off to prevent cracking and more white line stretching that I am betting is pretty uncomfortable. Also her bars are over grown and crushed, they need to be trimmed down, and her heels are running foreward, they need to be backed up to a normal level.

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This is a healthy Draft horse hoof.


Other than that and the white line stretching due to that, they look nice and healthy.

I am not saying to make her have tiny hooves, but her hooves now are unhealthy and need to be trimmed, she does not need pancake hooves either, as they are now, they are not functional if they keep cracking and that is due to the flares.

ETS: haha Redhawk, I was going to add that site too to explain about the flares and such.
 

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RedHawk - thanks, I'll definitely check out that site tomorrow, I got home late tonight and work early in the morning! I'll go through it after our dressage lesson tomorrow, thanks again!

Honeysuga - I understand she has some flaring at her quarters but I don't see how she's so overgrown. She was trimmed March 15, so barely a week and a half ago. I don't want her walking on her soles...she has tender feet as is if she steps on a rock. I also asked my farrier, who's been trimming both barefoot and shoeing for over 30 years, about her white line because of a comment you made about another post of mine and he said she's fine. A bit stretched at the quarters where she's flared, but nothing to be concerned about and it's certainly fixable. I do agree that her bars need to be trimmed and I'll do that on the weekend, but to say she has unhealthy hooves is a little much.

The pink line you drew, to me, is not how she should be trimmed...you outlined her SOLE. The yellow scribble you put on there is her entire hoof wall. I didn't ask him to do a "classic" barefoot trim where the horse walks on every part of their foot...this farrier's been working with my horses for over 8 years and Eve is our first problem with flares. My mom had a mare that did the same but he brought her around now and she's golden.

I'm not meaning to get defensive, but I asked the pro's and con's of shoeing a horse...not for a farrier critique. If you have something to add about shoes, you experience with them, or a reason NOT to shoe a horse, let's here it...but if you're only going to point out what you see to be flaws, please don't.
 

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I didn't mean to point out just the flaws, other than the flaring, they look great(said that in my other post.

Sorry for the post, didn't mean it to turn out that way, was really tired last night and was just trying to help.

I was trying to address what you said about functionality and the fact that she cracks that much, I was giving you the reason, which 9/10 is caused by too much pressure on the walls of her hooves(which will also make her appear "tender footed", when it is really the stretching that causes the pain you are noticing and really not much actual tenderness at all), which is fixed by getting them off the ground(and if they are constantly cracking, and because of the stretching, thrush, and flaring, they are indeed not as healthy as they could be if trimmed up more).

Because she is tender footed, I think shoes would benefit her greatly in helping to get her walls up off the ground, stopping the cracking and making her feet more functional overall.

ETA, the pink line IS her sole, which should only be a little bit smallerthan the hoof ATG, with the walls rolled all the way around to relieve pressure. You kinda have to pick between getting her sole on the ground(of course this is what is actually supposed to be the weight baring surface on a healthy hoof...) or having her walls support her weight and flare and stretch and crack...
 
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