Not sure what to think of this post... are you serious?

I even had to go to your profile to see if this was your first post... coming on a horse forum and asking if we are good people or *******s, seems a little distasteful. From that point I guess I am an *******....

 

Not sure what to think of this post... are you serious?

I even had to go to your profile to see if this was your first post... coming on a horse forum and asking if we are good people or not, seems a little distasteful. From that point I guess I am an *******....

I think this might be coming from the thread I just replied to where this poster asked about buying a Clydesdale... a few of us posted some of the many aspects of Clydesdale ownership you have to consider before buying a first one, and the poster responded negatively to it. Bit of an immature response to post something like this, but apparently the poster is a minor, so whilst not a justification, it's an explanation...

 

Majority of horse people I've met (whether professional riders, trainers, or pleasure trail riders) are nice, helpful and give you a hand when you need it. May be you just look at things in wrong way, or treat other people wrong so they give you some kind of attitude.

And BTW I never NEVER heard this stereotype from either horsey or non-horsey people. Frankly, I do find it to be offensive too.

 

I was just reading the Clydesdale thread... Has a little interest as my son has owned a couple of them. My interest dwindled very quickly when I saw the everything going south.

 

No it came from the person who was ment to pick up the horse we're trying to sell. It was ment to be a week ago and nope, never showed up. Another person said they were going to pick her up, never did!
Then the first guy just out of the blue picked her up without notice and took her across the country.

The first trainer we took a horse to was a very stuck up person then the second trainer we went to she was a gem!

It must be a real different place where i come from then.

 

It must be a real different place where i come from then.

There are rude people everywhere but it also depends on your attitude too. You can take their snarky remarks as rude, or you can put on a smile and think "oh maybe things are tough for them, I'm going to be friendly regardless"

And I agree with faceman.. what defines a "horse person" ?

 

I was just reading the Clydesdale thread... Has a little interest as my son has owned a couple of them. My interest dwindled very quickly when I saw the everything going south.

They are fantastic horses, but require a lot of considerations... and I think that those sorts of suggestions are fair. You'll know yourself if your son has had some. But I guess it wan't the advice the poster was looking for...

 

Could you post a link, please? I don't have any intention to buy one, but I'm curious to read about considerations.

 

There is a saying or stereotype that horse people arn't good people. I agree with it more than disagree.

No it came from the person who was ment to pick up the horse we're trying to sell.

Ok so which is it. It came from someone else and you didn't say it... but you do agree with it more that disagree.

I can be a jerk... I have a low tolerance of posts such as this one. Why would you come on a horse forum and ask a question such as this? Makes no sense to me. I don't care what area you are from a little common sense goes a long ways!

 

OP, I get where you're going with this. I know many horse people who are complete snobs, one being my "sister".

I don't think you're trying to call people here snobs, correct?
While there are many people who are terrible horse people, they're a poor representation of true horse people.
I guarantee you that if you met a true horse person, you wouldn't come to the consensus that we're all like that.
These people that you speak of aren't horse people, they're rude, stuck up people who don't deserve horses.

Everyone here I have the utmost respect for and believe them to be true horse people.
Is that where you were you going, OP?
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Description; People who have horses that think that know a lot more than others. It isn't just horse topics, it's everything.
I think it's the competitive nature of the people i've met as the people who don't really compete that i've met that don't fit the stereotype. Every equine person in town that competes knows everything about every other person who owns a horse. Example: The first trainer we took out horse to competes and if a horse doesn't do what it's ment to, she sells it. When she was training my pony she said she'd never be broken in so gave up. We asked her about other trainers and we knew one, she said this trainer 'shoots horses'. We ended up taking the horse to this trainers anyway. She is by far the nicest horse person i know. She does everything from the goodness of doing it and they don't shoot horses!

Hope that explained it a bit...
It's quiet hard to explain.
And no i did not mean to offend anyone.

With the situation that happend with my horse, the same thing happend with our riding coach, she sold a horse that never got picked up and she even said their is some 'snobs' around.

No, not at all calling people snobs!

 

Description; People who have horses that think that know a lot more than others. It isn't just horse topics, it's everything.

Excuse me, but then lots of people (horsey or non-horsey) are "not good people" based on this definition. Because many people think they are experts (or at least very knowledgeable) in something. And how do YOU know they are not?

In fact I met far more NON-horsey people who think they are expert and brilliant in something (which is sometime a case and sometime is not).

Instead of calling someone knowledgable a "jerk" I much rather prefer to LEARN from that person as much as I can (even if the person has "know-it-all" attitude). That benefits both - you and the person!

 

horse people are like any other group of people, some good, some bad.
and i agree with the above knowledgeable doesnt = jerk
there are plenty of people on here who know WAY more than me and I appreciate them for that, they give me advice when I need it!!

 

Im in the western cow horse event world. The people are great. Willing to help and have fun. Some are snobs and not fun to be around, But most are willing to help, and hang out.

But NEVER EVER trust a horse person when making a horse deal.

 

I think I'll kind of agree to this. Not that I think horse people aren't nice, but they aren't the sort of nice that other people are. Most horse people I know are kind of blunt, brusque, and while they'll help out people in need they're not nice like non-horse people are nice. With sweetness and caring.

I think its because to be into horses you have to be a bit tough, and passionate, so tempers tend to run a little hot.

 

What the heck does 'sweetness and caring' have to do with whether one is or isn't a helpful person?

I'd rather have someone give me a pep talk and actually help, than wring their hands and do not much of anything else.

Gleek, you're young. You live in a world of absolutes right now, so of course someone is either nice or not-nice. You haven't lived long enough to realize that good people can do bad things, and bad people can do good things. It's NEVER just one or the other. Very few people are either all good or all bad.

 

What the heck does 'sweetness and caring' have to do with whether one is or isn't a helpful person? You think people's little psyches will be bruised if someone doesn't slob sympathy all over them while giving them a hand up?

I'd rather have someone give me a pep talk and actually help, than cry crocodile tears, wring their hands and do not much of anything else. Oh, but they're caring while they're not helping, so that makes it all better!
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I find many people in the horse world rude, many of them gossip, are bossy, self important and are unkind. I know they mean well, and I know they'll help out where they can which is why sometimes I grit my teeth and ignore them, but ultimately value friendships, because its their behaviour that irritates me, not them. But not everyone has grown up in the horse world, and not everyone understands these sorts of people, and this version of nice is very different from the version of "nice" in the world I associate with. In "my world" people don't swear or yell or make harsh jokes to teach people things (these things I find quite prevalent in the horse world) but that doesn't mean I have a hurt psyche or am soft, it's just not the way its done everywhere. People value different behaviours and learn different behaviours.

I've never needed a pep talk, nor have I ever had anyone give one to me and I think if it involves someone coming over and telling me what to do I don't want one. Nor have I seen anyone cry crocodile tears. I was merely saying that, in my experience, horse people's version of caring seems a lot rougher than other people's, and, especially to outsiders, it can seem downright mean. Sometimes just the way someone says something can make them helpful or not.

 

What are "horse people" anyway?

Is a 17 year old girl that lives in the city and boards a horse and sees it 3 or 4 hours a week but otherwise lives a city lifestyle a "horse person"?

How about a 30 year old woman that lives on a farm and sees her horse 24/7, and provides for 100% of its care?

Or how about a person that doesn't even own a horse, but rides regularly?

Or a person that owns horses but doesn't ride at all?

Or a person that was raised with horses but doesn't own or ride now?

There are many different kinds of "horse people"...far too much variety to be able to classify them as to type...

 

People are people, it does not matter if they are horse people, dog people or whatever. If they are the kind of person who sticks their nose up at others, they are not just doing that to other horse people, they are just that way and will do it in every aspect of their life.

 

I really don't see young as an excuse for this behavior. Anonymous on the internet does not have the right to be running about calling people jerks. I've never met a jerky horse person where I'm from. They've all been absolutely amazing. Of course I'm open minded and willing to admit I'm wrong and learn from those who know more.

 

I have met one in the last 2 weeks. Go to horse shows, If anybody is kinda a jerk it will come out at a show.
I got snapped at for asking if i could walk my horse behind someone elses. In a allyway in the stall barn. She snapped saying why not my horses dont kick everyone should know that.

 

I'm going to be the odd one out here and say that I have heard this sterotype. We (as in my family and friends), really just say there are a lot of bad horse people when we buy/sell horses. There are A LOT of dishonest sellers out there. A lot of people trying to sell you a lame horse doped up on drugs, completely lie about what the horse is capable to doing, its behavior, anything. However, this is the ONLY time when I ever hear someone talking about bad horse people. I never hear people say that horse people act like they know more than anyone else, thats a little silly.

 

Pepperduck, there are also A LOT of dishonest buyers out there, so it goes both ways. People lying about their experience and riding ability are two instances that come readily to mind.

I don't think there are more dishonest people in horses than in any other walk of life, it's just that if you spend many years in one particular thing, you're going to meet the good as well as the bad.

 

What does BTW stand for?

 

By the way

 

I agree with Tonipony people are people & after having been a registered nurse for 35 yrs. & taking care of countless people my verdict is it is about 50/50 good/nice vs. rude/mean. Don't let it bother you too much just try to be the kind or person you want other people to be.

 

Ehhh...I'm going to have to partially agree with the stereotype. I've heard it quite a few times actually. I'm not saying that every single "horse person" in the world is this way, but my experiences with the equestrian community have been less than ideal.

In my personal experiences, the only reason anyone would be nice and offer me advice would be because they were expecting something in return. I also made a few "friends" when I boarded my horse for a bit that would be all sweet and then turn around and talk some crap about me, especially when I would show up to the barn in a Motley Crue shirt and some Converses or something. Then the second they found out I wasn't going to college and was enlisting in the military they stopped talking to me like I wasn't good enough for them, but I'll admit that I don't get that response from just horse people.

I think a lot of the equestrian world is full of snooty, holier-than-thou spoiled brats. I'm not saying that everyone is that way. I've met many people on here that I highly respect for their knowledge and humble nature. At the same time, some of the people on here are the prime example of the "snooty brat" I described.

Someone earlier said on here that you gotta have a thick skin, and boy is that the truth! The equestrian world is dog-eat-dog.

 

I think all clubs, sports, memberships, teams, organizations, etc. have those people that are over the top, crazy, snobby, insane, all-mighty, and even super nice...

I was always told that once you got out of high school life would get better, but I have to say, the back stabbing, nastiness, sneakiness, jelousy's, ugliness, and all-mightyness doensn't go away and I think as we get older and more jaded, it becomes even more noticeable. The thing is, if you really look for the good, it's there. It's almost always there. But you have to be smart about things, you have to know that this person is a snake so deal with them accordingly, etc.

I always thought rich people were snobs. It's true in so many instances but in so many other instances... "they" are the nicest people in the world. It really depends on what circles you run in and who you hang out with.

I've learned that fitting in is less important then having a few really good friends and people you can trust and county on....

Oh... and .... Horse people are crazy...

 

OP, I'm really sorry that you seem to have had more bad experiences with horse people than good. It's unfortunate because there are some wonderful people out there. I hope you meet some. Horses attract the best and the worst - you just have to find the right crowd.

I have a small group of horse friends that I consider family. Any one of them would give you the shirt off their back. My old instructor is like second mother to me. And you know what? She was a big-time hunter and show jumper in her day. Not all competitive riders are awful.

 

any individual whose life is completely immersed in a science, a sport, a discipline... they will appear as a know-it-all or snobby to those who are threatened by that knowledge.
I think that's why a lot of people get offended by horsey folks. When it's your entire life, naturally, you'll think you know a good bit about it. And if you're a good, experienced horseman or woman, you should. There is no shame in doing what you do well.

As for the folks flaking out on the deals and badmouthing this trainer or that person, that's not a shortcoming of horsepeople. That's a shortcoming of PEOPLE in general. The ability to be a jerk is sadly not limited to one demographic. Every single human being on the planet has the potential to be an ***. The sooner you accept that... the happier you will be, I expect.

 

I'll be damned if this isn't the silliest thread I've read in a long time. In all my years I've only met one horse person that was truly a jerk. But she knew her stuff, and she knew it. All the rest of the people I've met, friends, acquaintances, etc..., have all been very nice people. Some a bit more set in their ways than others, some just plain stubborn, some very opinionated, some very sweet, some would give you the shirt off their back at the drop of a hat. Some I choose to be friends with, some I don't. I wonder of the same is true about turtle people, or jazz musicians, (of which I am one as well). Yep, I'm a horsey jazzer!!!! Now that's kinda funny in a stupid way! Never mind..... Anyone else want a gin tonic? How about a warm beer? Two words for this thread..... RODNEY KING

 

Anyone want a apple? ****