[Piaffe]

My little brindle Arab colt finallllly got here from Texas today He is super cute, but he is underweight and has a hay belly (as you will see in the pics). He is only just 3 though so he has plenty of growing left to do! His sire is Insignia DeSha and dam is Bint Bint Saffina.

Because he is a brindle AHA said they won't register him unless he is registered grey so I am going to do that....

My question is I bought him from someone that got him from DeShazer Arabians so will I need to have the original breeders signature or something or can he just be registered by putting in his sire and dam i.d numbers?

This is probably a super silly question,but I haven't registered an Arab before...so....

I only got to spend about 1/2 hour with before I had to get to work so the pics aren't great....I just snapped them real quick

OH! He also needs a name! if you have any good ideas.....:lol:

Thanks!!!

 

[Piaffe]

more pics....

 

[BarrelracingArabian]

wow he is gorgeous!!!!

 

[Eliz]

Cute little guy! Crazy color! I wonder if he'll grey out... did you just buy him cause he's brindle? His color reminds me of a bloody shoulder.

Yes, you'll have to have the previous owner/breeder's signature to register him. I believe with the babies its the signature of the owner of the dam at the time of the foaling.

 

[ShutUpJoe]

OMG! I'm so jealous! I would LOVE to have a brindle!

 

[trailhorserider]

Wow, how exotic and beautiful!!! :mrgreen:

Is he a gray? He kind of looks like it because of his mane. It would kind of be a shame for him to gray out.

Do you have photos of him as a baby? That would be cool- to see what color he was then!

 

[Piaffe]

Thanks I like him so far! He has a great personality.

Uh....yeaaa...I admit it...I bought him for the color I know...bad bad bad...I couldnt resist,though But he isn't for breeding he is cut and I don't think his confo will be too bad once he fills out so I got lucky.

Too bad on the breeder question...Since I bought him from the person they sold him to I am not sure if the breeder will sign or anything :-|
Guess I will email and try. I would really like him to be registered even if he won't be shown or bred...

 

[trailhorserider]

Do you think he's a gray?

I love Arabians and color too!

 

[Piaffe]

his actual color up close is a really weird beigeish color...I sure hope he doesn't go grey! but I knew it was a possibility when I got him....

I don't have any baby pics of him at all I am going to email the breeder to see if I can get anymore info/pics on him....and hopefully a signature!

 

[ladybugsgirl]

i would have bought him too. He would probably make a good horse when old enough to train and very eye catching

 

[trailhorserider]

He kind of looks like a rose gray- a chestnut going gray.

To be gray, at least one parent must be gray. My colt is turning gray, and his mom is a gray. But his dad was a chestnut and baby is a chestnut going gray.

But your guy is so cool, it would be a shame to loose the color. But he would be gorgeous either way.

 

[Eliz]

I don't know much about brindles... is the color of his skin patterned like the hair? I'll do some research on brindle... he could grey out if it's not a "true" brindle.

I would think the breeder would want it's babies registered, and I don't see why they WOULDN'T sign your papers. Surely they'd remember their brindle baby

 

[Piaffe]

This is his sire Insignia DeSha, bay of course, his dam is Bint Bint Saffina and I do not have any pictures of her so I don't know her color,but I am guessin she is grey

 

[trailhorserider]

The only thing about the gray gene is I think it trumps other colors. So a horse could be born any color and then gray out if it inherits the gene.

But that's a good question. Is he brindle and will stay that way, or is the brindling an expression of the gray gene? Obviously most grays never go through a brindle stage, but it could be a strange expression of graying out. I do know however, there are/were solid color brindles with white striping that stay that way.

And some brindles are chimeric, they are actually the product of a reabsorbed twin and so the horse carries two sets of DNA (if I remember my research correctly). That isn't always the case, but it is the case with some brindles.

 

[Piaffe]

the actual skin appears to have the same colors, I talked to the breeder and they did remember him, they said since brindles can't be shown they didn't register him, I haven't asked them yet whether or not they would care if I did...This is his dam...no pics,though

Bint Bint Safina: 2001 gm

he is also registered with the Brindle Association...don't know if that means much,though...

 

[trailhorserider]

This is his sire Insignia DeSha, bay of course, his dam is Bint Bint Saffina and I do not have any pictures of her so I don't know her color,but I am guessin she is grey

Hubba hubba. He's handsome!

 

[Piaffe]

The only thing about the gray gene is I think it trumps other colors. So a horse could be born any color and then gray out if it inherits the gene.

But that's a good question. Is he brindle and will stay that way, or is the brindling an expression of the gray gene? Obviously most grays never go through a brindle stage, but it could be a strange expression of graying out. I do know however, there are/were solid color brindles with white striping that stay that way.

And some brindles are chimeric, they are actually the product of a reabsorbed twin and so the horse carries two sets of DNA (if I remember my research correctly). That isn't always the case, but it is the case with some brindles.

Do you know if there are any tests or anything for brindle/chimeric? I don't know a lot about them either. I have done a lot of research,but there just isn't a lot of info...if there was a test I would sure like to get it for him! I am really curious.

 

[msmaryy]

Wow he really is cool!! How unusual! Congrats!

 

[trailhorserider]

the actual skin appears to have the same colors, I talked to the breeder and they did remember him, they said since brindles can't be shown they didn't register him, I haven't asked them yet whether or not they would care if I did...This is his dam...no pics,though

Bint Bint Safina: 2001 gm

he is also registered with the Brindle Association...don't know if that means much,though...

Too bad it doesn't list her color. But if you talk to the breeder again, you can ask. Maybe just ask them if HE is a gray. Because if he is, then he would have been born a solid color.

 

[Piaffe]

....one more question and it probably is even sillier than the first

What does the GM mean by his dam's name?