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Hi everybody,

lately I've been working with my fiance's 20 year old mare "Subby" (Quarter-Arabian-German Riding Pony-Mix, about 148cm tall). I'm mostly doing light lunge work with her as she lacks back muscles after a longer training pause after a knee injury (the injury is healed again and we've got the vet's OK to work with her again) and I don't want to put my 70kg's on her back right now. Now, I'm looking for any other exercise ideas for her without riding her ... Something so she can regain her back muscles again?

She's not allowed to jump, because of an old leg injury she had when she was a foal, and therefore also should not go over poles lying on the ground as she would probably use them as an excuse to jump when she's feeling funny.
No tight turns either, as I don't want to strain that knee, even if it should be OK again according to the vet.
As stated above, right now, I also don't want to ride her as long as she hasn't regained some back muscles and I also won't want to let her run free as we only have an outdoor arena and this can become quite slippery in bad weather and she might slip when running too fast.

So, has anyone here got any ideas for us? 馃檪
 

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Yeah, with her knee, I'd go very easy on lunging. I'd imagine there wouldn't be a prob doing poles thought. Straight lines - so ground driving, and hill work is great for building fitness without putting too much stress on the body.
 

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The problem with poles isn't the knee but an older injury... Or rather, older injuries. She's been somewhat of a "specialist" with her legs ever since she was a foal 馃檲 She shouldn't be jumping and I don't want to give her any ideas - she does have a lot of energy lately and will always try to come up with "fun stuff" to burn off that energy whenever possible 馃樄

Ground driving sounds interesting, thanks for the idea. :) I'll have to see what she thinks about it because no one has ever tried that with her before!
 

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I think you are worrying too much about your weight. I'd get on and ride her. She will get stronger much fast that way, and you can control the turns.
 

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Maybe I am, maybe not. I've ridden her before and she had no problem with it, but she did have more back muscles back then 馃檲
 

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If she has injuries that make going over poles even too difficult for her, definitely shouldn't be lunging & i imagine she will be finding any fittening work hard & perhaps it's not realistic or fair for you to be trying, or thinking of riding her.
 

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Where have I ever said that she CANNOT go over poles or that it's too hard for her?? I only said that she SHOULD NOT jump (which does NOT mean that she CANNOT or WILL NOT jump). I only won't work her over ground poles because I don't want her to get any funny ideas, because, yes, she CAN jump and WILL jump and might just take that pole on the floor as a nice excuse.

I also never intended this thread to turn into a discussion about this! I ONLY asked for exercise ideas and gave information on what would not be an option for us so people maybe could come up with different ideas.

Last but not least, implying that I (or my fiance) would work a sick or injured horse that is in pain (and yes, that's the message that comes across with that last post) without even knowing us or the horse nor having seen us work is not exactly nice (to put it mildly). As stated in my opening post, we have the vet's OK to work with her and we would stop immediately if she did show any signs of discomfort or problems - which is not the case. On the contrary, she WANTS to be worked and do something and shows this very clearly, which is the reason I've been asking for different exercise ideas.
 

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Where have I ever said that she CANNOT go over poles or that it's too hard for her?? I only said that she SHOULD NOT jump (which does NOT mean that she CANNOT or WILL NOT jump).
because of an old leg injury she had when she was a foal, and therefore also should not go over poles lying on the ground
The problem with poles isn't the knee but an older injury... Or rather, older injuries.
Those words gave me precisely that idea. Is it seriously so bad then, that she shouldn't even jump poles? Sounds like a bad injury if that's the case.

I also never intended this thread to turn into a discussion about this! I ONLY asked for exercise ideas and gave information on what would not be an option for us so people maybe could come up with different ideas.
OK. In future if you seriously don't want to see any discussion, you should stipulate that up front. Not that that will guarrantee, but...

Last but not least, implying that I (or my fiance) would work a sick or injured horse that is in pain (and yes, that's the message that comes across with that last post) without even knowing us or the horse nor having seen us work is not exactly nice (to put it mildly).
If that's not the case, then great. But I was not 'implying' or assuming - I'm sorry you took it that way - but guessing, questioning, from your words - please again read what you wrote above. I cannot know any more than your words give me. Then please notice the bolded words below, to better understand my intent;

she has injuries that make going over poles even too difficult for her, definitely shouldn't be lunging & I imagine she will be finding any fittening work hard & perhaps it's not realistic or fair for you to be trying, or thinking of riding her.
 

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Well yea, If you only read half of the sentence or take a sentence out of its context, then, of course, you can interpret it that way.

I wrote she should not go over poles lying on the ground - no mention that she CAN'T go over poles at all or that she has a problem with it. But we don't want her to do it in order to not give her any funny ideas.

The problem with poles isn't the knee but an older injury... Or rather, older injuries. She's been somewhat of a "specialist" with her legs ever since she was a foal 馃檲 She shouldn't be jumping and I don't want to give her any ideas - she does have a lot of energy lately and will always try to come up with "fun stuff" to burn off that energy whenever possible - again, no mention that she CAN'T do it. We just don't want her to do it, so she doesn't get any ideas.

Yes, she did have some more and some less severe injuries on her legs which are all healed again but nevertheless we've been advised not to let her jump in order to not force any possible problems she might get from that when those healed injuries might act up again. Doesn't mean she's having problems with them now, does it?

In short, we're sticking to her vet's advice to not let her jump, but just because she shouldn't jump, it doesn't mean that she CAN'T do it. It also doesn't mean that she WILL have problems after jumping a ground pole or a low obstacle once or twice, but we don't want to take that chance by actively asking her to do such things.

Hope that explains things good enough?
 

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Well yea, If you only read half of the sentence or take a sentence out of its context, then, of course, you can interpret it that way
Misunderstanding people's written words is easy - which is why I bolded, to emphasise those words you missed in my other reply. Always helpful to clarify as best you can. ;-)
 

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So, now that we've clarified that there are no medical issues right now - does anybody have any more exercise ideas for us that do not include poles? 馃檪
 

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Never tried that before with her, I know though that she used to do that when she was young before she had been saddle broke. It sounds interesting and she does get along well with my own mare. Anything specific you have in mind while leading her or do you think I should just take her along on a short hack??
 

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@Frippet not many hills here unfortunately, just 2 slight rises on our shortest route, but we can certainly implement those :)

@boots sounds like a good plan :) our shortest route is about 5km, mostly flat ground. Should be ok for the beginning I think?
 
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