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I just gotta get somethin outta my chest. its good for you isn't it? :)

well there's this little girl that rides at the barn i ride at and um let's just say she has a big attitude down there :p ....

she has this old scrawny horse that has really bad conformation and is just above all really not a good horse, really sour and stubborn, not a good kid horse, hell it will teach the girl a lot! xD ...

her horse really likes my horse...like when the horse is in season (which never seems to end) it's just like COME ON GET ON MEH! to my horse...who is a mare :shock:
and ya my horse is very tolerable and i try to hold her back from biting the scrawny-ness

but the little girl thinks its ok to be dangerously close to my mare (by the way she will NOT listen to me when i tell her to get away) when we're walking and stuff, so today when we were on a big trail ride the lil girl decided to let her mare go really close to my mare's butt and then, BOOM! my mare kicks at her, which i wasn't really expecting but my mare was really was tired of that girl and her horse, like my mare didn't mind my friend's horse go up her butt, (then again she likes my friend's mare enough not to kick) but i just really didnt care when she kicked the girl's horse, i mean if she has to learn things the hard way fine, because later she thought it would be safe to go by my mare again who striked a bite to her horse, with an added squeal!

will she EVER learn?! worst part *my concerned part* her mare cribs, and my dad and trainer moved my horse next to her stall so we can make a box stall, but i do NOT want my horse to start cribbing that would be a NIGHTMARE! thanks to the little brat's mare....

sad thing is she doesn't even really take care of it. not sure if she even knows that it cribs. im worried like hell tho that my mare will start doing it though....ughh! i'm so upset...:cry:

at the same time i feel bad for the girl's mare since the girl puts her in dangerous situations but, idk

they both have bad attitude problems i guess....

anyone ever had problems similar to this? :(
 

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If it makes you feel any better, from what I've read, cribbing is not a behavior one horse learns from another. It is not catching, so your mare should be fine in that regards.

Sorry everything else is going so poorly. Any chance you can avoid this girl and ride when she is not around?
 

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If it makes you feel any better, from what I've read, cribbing is not a behavior one horse learns from another. It is not catching, so your mare should be fine in that regards.
I'm afraid that I disagree with that. Cribbing can be a learned behavior. I'm surprised that the BM would allow it. Most barns will ban a cribber or at least, due to the destructive nature of it, make them put on a collar.

As for the other problem, again, you need to talk to the BM about the problem and just for safety reasons (aside from the legal implications) you might consider putting a red bow on your horse's tail. That will give warning that your mare is liable to kick if another horse crowds her.

In the words of Ron White, "You Can't Fix Stupid", you can only protect yourself.
 

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... but i just really didnt care when she kicked the girl's horse, i mean if she has to learn things the hard way fine, because later she thought it would be safe to go by my mare again who striked a bite to her horse, with an added squeal! ...
I'm sure you say this out of frustration at the situation, which I can understand. Many horses don't like another horse right on their butt, and some horses just don't like each other, too, but where I come from, kicking or biting while riding in a group is always a bad behavior that should never be tolerated.
 

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Your mare won't learn to crib from the girl's horse. It's a genetic predisposition and if a horse isn't wired to crib, it won't. You have nothing to worry about. ;)

On the other hand, I have no patience with naughty children. Where are her parents? If she won't listen when you're being polite, I would say no more Miss Nice Girl. Get down to her level and get really firm with her, maybe even nasty if you have to be. If you have to hurt her feelings or make her angry in order to get the message across, so be it. It's better than your horse accidentally hurting her, which could turn into a huge mess.
 

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Apparently I stand corrected. The latest research seems to indicate that some horses are born with a predisposition to cribbing. Goes to show you that you can teach an old rider new tricks!
 

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it's nice to know the cribbing probably wont be a problem,

the little girl just doesn't understand how dangerous other horses can be and it just irritates me how she can't seem to learn or realize that :(
 

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Where are this girls parents? IMO I would go to the parents and tell them that you have tried to teach her but she will not listen and continues to put herself and her horse in danger. Ask them if they would speak to her about being more responsible and considerate of others and their horses.
 

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Go to the BO and parents of the girl, explain your worries and leave it up to them.

And if your horse is not already a cribber you have no worries. Cribbing stems from a genetic predisposition that has to be triggered either by boredom, trauma, or agitation. Your horse will not "learn" to crib unless she has the disposition and possibly the stress from the other horse being around her triggers it, but that is very unlikely.
 
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