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Hi all,I need your help

I am going to view a horse to loan she is perfect for me but.....
I really wanted a horse that was barefoot and she has heart bar shoes on the front and normal shoes on the hind.
She is 15 and was an eventer and had them because she has soft heels,she had them taken off and replaced by normal shoes but her owner said she went lame so had the heart bars put back on.
They are very expensive to maintain and I have heard they can do more harm than good.
I will just be having her as a light hack/schooling horse NO jumping so I don't feel they are necessary but don't want to upset the owner by wading in and trying to tell her what her horse needs.
I wondered if I had them taken off given time and rest,ie...just groundwork for a few months whilst we both build trust would she be able to go barefoot with boots for hacking?would her feet be able to recover?
Any farrier help appreciated also xx
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I am *guessing* that the horse has 'navicular' I'm afraid. **Of course, I can't possibly know & you would want to get the vet to check him out & xray, to see if/how far any bony changes have progressed.

It depends on the stage of it as to whether I'd consider buying a horse with a known issue. *Mind you, I am a rehab specialist with successful experience dealing with 'navicular' & I'd hesitate to suggest someone take on a horse like that without good, experienced help at hand... and willingness to learn. This condition used to be - & frequently still is - thought of as 'incurable' and progressive, but in recent decades we have learned a LOT about hoof form & function and, so long as she's not 'too far gone' it is generally treatable these days, *without* shoes. Any bone remodelling that's already happened cannot be 'fixed', but generally that doesn't matter to the horse's comfort and ability.

Conventional treatment, being that it was considered 'incurable' is only geared towards palliative measures. Bar shoes are generally the first 'port of call', then when they no longer work to provide relief(because with these measures it is indeed incurable & progressive), wedges provide relief by moving the centre of load further forward. When they no longer work, wedges get higher & higher, then when it's deemed they can't go any higher, when that stops working, the horse may be 'de-nerved' or put down.

Barefoot rehab first involves getting the horse out of shoes, as they exacerbate some of the causes of the problem. Obviously if the horse is lame without, if they can't be made comfortable on yielding footing &/or padded boots, pain meds may be called for in the short term. Hoof distortion needs to be addressed, with attention to getting the hooves into balanced, functional form ASAP. Then, keeping them protected as necessary, they should be able to be off painkillers & well on the way to recovery!
 

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I am *guessing* that the horse has 'navicular' I'm afraid. **Of course, I can't possibly know & you would want to get the vet to check him out & xray, to see if/how far any bony changes have progressed.

It depends on the stage of it as to whether I'd consider buying a horse with a known issue. *Mind you, I am a rehab specialist with successful experience dealing with 'navicular' & I'd hesitate to suggest someone take on a horse like that without good, experienced help at hand... and willingness to learn. This condition used to be - & frequently still is - thought of as 'incurable' and progressive, but in recent decades we have learned a LOT about hoof form & function and, so long as she's not 'too far gone' it is generally treatable these days, *without* shoes. Any bone remodelling that's already happened cannot be 'fixed', but generally that doesn't matter to the horse's comfort and ability.

Conventional treatment, being that it was considered 'incurable' is only geared towards palliative measures. Bar shoes are generally the first 'port of call', then when they no longer work to provide relief(because with these measures it is indeed incurable & progressive), wedges provide relief by moving the centre of load further forward. When they no longer work, wedges get higher & higher, then when it's deemed they can't go any higher, when that stops working, the horse may be 'de-nerved' or put down.

Barefoot rehab first involves getting the horse out of shoes, as they exacerbate some of the causes of the problem. Obviously if the horse is lame without, if they can't be made comfortable on yielding footing &/or padded boots, pain meds may be called for in the short term. Hoof distortion needs to be addressed, with attention to getting the hooves into balanced, functional form ASAP. Then, keeping them protected as necessary, they should be able to be off painkillers & well on the way to recovery!
Yes I think the owner said she had nervicular in one leg 6 yrs ago but came sound in 6-8 months and has been sound ever since.
I have just seen photos as of yet but her feet look in good shape,I would really want to take the shoes off even if I had normal shoes on the front and none on the hind.. my goal would be barefoot of course but that's not always possible.
I might discuss this with the owner and see if I can speak to her vet about it.
 

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If the horse is lame even in regular shoes, then it is NOT SOUND! But as explained, bar shoes, wedges etc can be effective *palliative* treatments, so the horse doesn't feel it's feet so much & suffer from the unsoundness. Unless you have the facilities, want - & are allowed by the owner - to put in the substantial effort, time, and have a farrier/trimmer experienced at *successful* rehab of 'navicular' horses, then it would not be fair of you to just remove this horse's shoes.
 
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