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My neighbors at my dads house, have horses. They abuse them. They teach them to dance by whipping their legs until they bleed, they don't ever groom them, one stall had 6" deep of manure - I cleaned it up. They ride in a very harsh bit - the name escapes me at the moment. They breed this mate yearly, nice enough mare. I get the feeling she'd be great if she was away from them. Whenever they mount up, they spin basically for at Least 5 minutes. 2 years back, she had a stunning lil filly I've grown extremely close to. I can't pronounce her name, but I call her Tiger Lily and she responds. Shes pretty as a lily, but feisty as a tiger. She knows when you need her but is also playful and sweet and has a stubborn streak to rival a mule! So, im lookin for a horse. I was gonna ask to buy her but one day she went missing. Never was told why. Shes back now - they lent her out. Anyways, she's such an amazing filly. They're starting to break her to saddle. How can I convince them to sell her to me?! They care about $ - not their animals. I connected a link to the photobucket album where I have a LOT of pics of her! Flip through the photos - you know you want to!! So, help me help her?! Please??
http://s802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/Speedyheart/Tiger%20Lily/?action=view¤t=ee88fa58.jpg&evt=user_media_share
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what are the people doing with them just breeding? make them an offer and tell them that the market is down and the cost of feed is going up fast so if they were smart they would sell them to somebody fast then offer to buy
 

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They breed to their friends stallion, sometimes race them in local races - those are the ones I pity most - breed them every year startin at 2 years old, or auction them or send them to slaughter. They want to keep her as a race horse. Meaning she'll live 5 years - that's the oldest race horse they had. Then it's breed once then slaughter house
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BTW - in the pic with 3 horses, the palomino is her ma, she's only 8, never seen a vet, and she looks like she's on her way out the door. The bay is her full sister, a year younger. Shes being sold
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She's beautiful, what a gorgeous face. If/when you make them an offer, think of the absolute highest you'd consider paying but offer less than that; that way if they refuse, you can increase your offer without going over your limit. Thats the only advice I've got, and if still no luck, report the abuse and hope the authorities or someone gets them out of there :(
 

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I've called animal control MANY times. Only made it harsher on the horses when animal control did nothing. If link isn't working, go to photobucket, find user Speedyheart, album Tiger Lily
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She's a lovely little mare. I'd lowball them and see what it would take. Offer $250 and they'll say "oh no, we wouldn't sell her for less than $XXX." Then hand them $XXX. Hope you have a much better home for her and give her the TLC she needs!
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She's the most amazing thing, she only has one habit, and it's not even too bad except for making me feel bad - she'll grab my shirt when I'm leaving lol. Easily correctable. I really love this filly - heck, my dad knew I love horses and sent me a pic when she was an hour old! I wish I still had it so I could show you guys! I've loved her since I first laid eyes on her. Most the time I like registered horses because I like to see their ancestors. Even if it's just made up of horses no one has ever heard of! I need to get a translator as well. I won't ask their daughters to translate for me, so, I'll bring someone who knows Spanish fluently. I hate those neighbors. Worst owners ever. They breed their boxer at every heat. They dock the tails with a rubber band, and taught their youngest daughter to hit the dogs - and I mean hit/kick - if he was runnin around. Did I mention the dog is a 6 month old boxer? They call him Peepee Boy because he pees when they hit him. I call him Koa so he at least has a true name. If I had somewhere, I'd take him to. But my ma is allergic to dogs
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Well good luck!
I'm a bargain hunter and I've never paid asking price for ANYTHING where I could negotiate. The people who owned my gelding wanted $550 and I got them down to $350 delivered even though I had $1,500 in my pocket! So I'd keep working on them. If you can point out her lack of training and see what the meat price for an untrained filly goes for in your area, that would help. I'm pretty sure they'd go for it. You say they race these horses??? They really don't look like TB's and where can you race an unregistered horse?
 

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They Are QH/TB so, Appendixes. Someone owns a "track" basically a long stretch of dirt where they race any other horse. Only ones not allowed are OTTBs. Private owned, you win $$, can bet, etc. that's where these guys go to race - no rules either
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I'd only offer $100/$200 for an unregistered, unstarted, thin filly. You never know.
They will probably counter for more and then I'd split that in half and stay firm. They will come back to you in a few days if they need the money, probably 30% more than your second offer, I'd then counter back going to 15% more than second offer. You'll probably get her then, but who knows!
Make sure you state that she still needs to be trained and gotten in shape. You can also say how there are dozens of other fillies you've looked at in that price range. I would be careful not to compliment her too much, but say that you'd like to give her a good home!
 

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Alright - I think I'm going to say this - I'm interested in buying that filly you have. I like her, and It would mean a lot to me If you'd sell her to me. I'd like to offer $250 for her because she's so young and untrained. - hows that sound?
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