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My Arabian mare is in full heat this week, and so I took her to a beautiful stallion to breed. He is a Quarter horse, and 4.5 years old.
I brought my mare to the ranch for a week, and when I got her there the Stallion got real exited and stared jumping around... Normal.
I put them together in the paster, her came up to her, got exited then walked away.
Jill, my mare, walked after him but nothing append...
Jill is 7 years old and it will be her first foal and breeding.
The Stallion's hined legs are in pain, but my friend sed he will be fine.
I an going to get a vet to look at them.
I really want a foal, but I don't know why he is not interested in her.
He gets on her and off... My friend sed her saw him do it. But sometimes he gets exited comes up to her sniffing an nugging her, but then walks off.
What to do??
 

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Lets see. Don't breed them, especially not pasture breeding. Obviously there is a reason why they won't connect. And may I ask what your reason for breeding is? Is their conformation outstanding? Do either of them have a show record or any training whatsoever? Why are you crossbreeding? Do the two horses compliment each other? I'm not trying to be mean, but breeding just because you want a foal is a very, VERY bad reason to breed. Why do you want to put more mediocre at best foals on the ground when very well bred foals are having trouble finding homes? If you want a foal so bad, go buy one. It will be MUCH cheaper in the long run, and you won't be putting your mare at risk. I strongly believe that anybody that breeds just to have a kyoot baby does not belong breeding. That is the absolute worst reason to breed. And again, I am sorry for sounding mean, but I feel very strongly about this subject. Also, that baby your mare will have will put one more horse on a slaughter truck. That's one less home for an auction horse. Please, please rethink your decision.
 

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I have a very good reason for breeding my horse. She is the most BEAUTIFUL Polish Arabian I have ever seen, and the stallion has a very good pedegry, My friend brought him from the USA... I live in Israel (But Im an American). And horse slaughter in this country is illegal!!!
I want to breed because I want a foal from her when I have to give her back when I go in the armi ...
And I want a cross because I want the Arabian beauty and grace with the big build of a Quarter horse. I really like that cross... I hve seen and ridden them befor.
Thank you !!! I know it sound stupid but I love her, and when I go to the armi for 2 years I will need to give her away.... And I would like to have a foal from her so I can keep !!!!!
 

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It's not about looks, it's about conformation. Pretty does NOT equal breeding quality. I personally do not think anything but the VERY best should be breeding, anywhere. By breeding your mare you are putting her and the foal potentially at risk for death. Are you ready to accept the fact that she could very well die giving birth? Can you afford all the vet care? You must think about all the thousands of dollars that go into breeding. And also, just because you want a baby is not a good reason for breeding. Not in the slightest.
 

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How are you going to care for the foal while you are in the army in two years? If going in forces you to give up the mare, then I hardly see the reason to add another life to be in limbo.
 

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Why does every thread about someone breeding ahorse have to be a big debate? She did not ask if she should breed her mare or not. She asked for advice on the logistics of breeding her mare not your take on the irresponsibility of some horse owners. She lives in a country that probably doesn't have an overpopulation of horses and she has decided to breed her mare.

To the OP: If she was in heat and in the pasture with the stallion for a week he has bred her. Any stallion that can walk will breed a mare in my experience. Stallions that are experienced pasture breeders generally take a little time to romance the mare so that they are sure she is ready and she isn't going to kick him or run off when he tries to mount. Stallions that have been hand bred where the mare is held stationary are generally not that polite and get the job done quicker. If your friend says he saw them breed then wait a couple weeks and have her ultrasounded and see if she is pregnant.
 

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Why does every thread about someone breeding ahorse have to be a big debate? She did not ask if she should breed her mare or not. She asked for advice on the logistics of breeding her mare not your take on the irresponsibility of some horse owners. She lives in a country that probably doesn't have an overpopulation of horses and she has decided to breed her mare.

To the OP: If she was in heat and in the pasture with the stallion for a week he has bred her. Any stallion that can walk will breed a mare in my experience. Stallions that are experienced pasture breeders generally take a little time to romance the mare so that they are sure she is ready and she isn't going to kick him or run off when he tries to mount. Stallions that have been hand bred where the mare is held stationary are generally not that polite and get the job done quicker. If your friend says he saw them breed then wait a couple weeks and have her ultrasounded and see if she is pregnant.
AMEN, kevinshorses! amen!
 

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It's not about looks, it's about conformation. Pretty does NOT equal breeding quality. I personally do not think anything but the VERY best should be breeding, anywhere. By breeding your mare you are putting her and the foal potentially at risk for death. Are you ready to accept the fact that she could very well die giving birth? Can you afford all the vet care? You must think about all the thousands of dollars that go into breeding. And also, just because you want a baby is not a good reason for breeding. Not in the slightest.
Don't be such a breeding snob!! Raising a foal really doesn't cost that much and if she has the ability to keep it then get off her back. Very very few mares have problems foaling let alone die while foaling. Exaggerating the facts to make your point is right next door to lying.
 

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I am not a breeding snob, but I am sick and tired of seeing foals at auctions go for SIX dollars. SIX. I live 2 hours from New Holland, and we regularly take trips down there. The high prices barely reach $500, and that's for a dead broke registered horse. Last year we got a very cute, very well put together filly for $60. In a normal market that filly would have brought at least $500, although she isn't papered. I'm tired of seeing horses with poor conformation bred and creating conformational trainwrecks that can barely walk. How is that life fair for a horse? I'm not anti breeding, I'm anti breeding anything that is just average. Because if I want an average foal I can just go buy one for a heck of a lot cheaper. They are a dime a dozen, IMO. You guys can go ahead and think I'm a snob, I don't care. It's an opinion, and everyone is entitled to have one. Whether or not you agree is a different story.
 

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The thing you are forgetting is that the OP is not in the US. Their market might be totally different.

I am wondering if you can not keep the mare and have to give her away then how can you keep the foal??

That being said. I am not sure what the weather is like there but here we are just coming into spring and although the mares are starting to cycle they normally will not breed. I know I have mares that have already come into their first heat and I have been teasing them with my stallion and although they show a good standing heat he just walks away. They are not ready to breed as this is a transitional cycle. So I will start breeding in about 2-3 weeks from now.
 

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All 5 of our mares are in raging, squirting heat right now. Yet show zero interest in my grandmother's colt(soon to be gelding, even though he is a purdy buckskin).

I understand that the OP is not in the US. It still bothers me. You have beautiful, well bred, accomplished mares(I assume, since I read in another post that babies are already sold!), bred to beautiful, well bred, accomplished stallions. That is a different story. But anyone breeding willy nilly just because they want a baby makes me want to stab myself, seriously. Because(no offense to the OP, I know nothing of your knowledge), MOST people that breed just for a kyoot baby know nothing about breeding and the dedication it takes. I fully intend to be an Appaloosa breeder in the long run(like..ten years from now). But not until I do ALL the research about bloodlines, what crosses well with what, and have accomplished horses with beautiful conformation.
 

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Frankly, I am glad Kassierae does what she does. Someone needs to be the voice of reason when people come on here dreaming outloud with completely unrealistic expectations of their crossbreeding experience with their backyard mare leading to them producing the next champion, or making them rich. Someone needs to shed the light of reason, and personally I'm glad Kassierae does. Yes, some people might find it tedious when every breeding question is answered with a question, but if that question makes the OP's think twice about why they are doind what they are doing, then Kassie has done a service to the greater horse world and I applaud her dedication.

There aren't many people who own mares that haven't thought once of taking advantage of their horses' ability to produce. If every person who thought such thoughts didn't get subjected to some reasoning, we would have a much bigger problem then we already do.

So, for my part, thank you, Kassie, I think you are doing the right thing.
 

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we would have a much bigger problem then we already do.
How do you know they have that problem where the OP lives?

Where I live you can sell a fugly, grade horse that is decently broken and quiet for anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000.

A QH/Arab (Which IS registerable) is a very desirable cross and would sell for much more if broken, and if a decent enough type, would sell for at least $1,000 unbroken.

I agree 100% with Kevin.
 

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How do you know they have that problem where the OP lives?

Where I live you can sell a fugly, grade horse that is decently broken and quiet for anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000.

A QH/Arab (Which IS registerable) is a very desirable cross and would sell for much more if broken, and if a decent enough type, would sell for at least $1,000 unbroken.

I agree 100% with Kevin.

In my above post, I was speaking in general. And I stand by my reasoning, regardless of where a poster might live, breeding a horse IS something that should be thought twice about before plunging in. Where you live, maybe you CAN get a fugly, grade horse that is quiet for $1-5,000.00. Where I live you can get a fugly, grade horse that is quiet for $10 bucks at auction. Should we respond to the poster making assumptions about what we personally value in a horse, and what prospective prices they could get for their horse? Or should we post a response based on what little information the OP has given us? In my earlier post, where I responded directly to the OP, I asked only what the OP intended to do with the prospective foal in two years when they entered the army and weren't going to be around. Which is still a valid point, IMO. If the person had said nothing of "desirable" crosses, but stated only that they were leaving for the army in two years and should they play at raising a foal in the meantime, would you be telling them they should go for it?
 

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thank you Kevin. the question isn't whether to breed, it's how to help get it done!! i hope the stallion is breeding her for you. but also this time of year, it may be a transitional heat, and she isn't really fertile yet. many stallions know when a mare is about to ovulate and will breed her then, and they often know when it isn't a true fertile heat, or she isn't close to ovulating yet. so they wait. the stallions are usually smarter than we are. so listen to him

if it's a transitional heat, it could go on for weeks before she is really ready to breed. can you leave her there til then?
 

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Should we respond to the poster making assumptions about what we personally value in a horse, and what prospective prices they could get for their horse?
No, we shouldn't. So wether it is papered or not, and what the resultant foal would bring at auction in your country, should be irrelevant.

I asked only what the OP intended to do with the prospective foal in two years when they entered the army and weren't going to be around. Which is still a valid point, IMO.
Of course it's a valid point. But I don't think the OP said they were leaving for the army, only joining - I will wait until they respond to make a judgement on that. It's the OMG you shouldn't breed because the foal won't be purebred, etc, that I hate.

Oh, and to Kassieray, pretty often does equal well conformed.
 

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It's the OMG you shouldn't breed because the foal won't be purebred, etc, that I hate.
Hey, that I can agree with ~ have you SEEN my horses? :lol: The one on my avatar is a cross of three breeds. (gasp) I've stated on several threads I don't have issues with crossbreds, and I don't see a lot of use for papers outside the show ring. I have a crossbred mare about to foal with a crossbred colt. I didn't breed her myself and were it up to me, she would not have been bred, because pregnancies are hard on a horse and people don't always think things through. I would have loved to save the money I have already shelled out in vet bills and supplies, and money I will surely continue to part with over the next many years with another mouth to feed. But I accept it for what it is, and I don't have issues with that. What I do have issues with everybody and their brother thinking they should breed their mare just because she has ovaries. People who have no experience, no knowledge and have not done their homework. People who have no intention to spend the money and have the mare/foal properly vetted, or people who chose a stud based what is close and cheap rather than if it will compliment the breeding at all. And that's where I do agree with Kassie. And no, I am not assuming that the OP IS one of the people described as above. Nor am I assuming they are NOT.
 

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if people only bred their well bred and perfectly conformed high class show horses, many(most) of us wouldn't have the horses we have today. i sure as heck can't afford a $30,000 horse.
Every time somone post a question about a certain breeding thing when they already have the stud picked out, or are asking for help on choosing a stud, it isn't our place to lecture them about the costs of breeding. maybe their mare isn't perfect, but maybe you want a baby from her because she is so great with everything she does! As long as the mare has decent conformation and temperment and the person knows how to handle a pregnant mare and foal, then why shouldn't they breed? because there are to many in the world? well, sorry hun, but that ain't never gonna stop the overflow of horses because the people that don't care what they breed don't care enough to even come on forums like this and check first! So give people a break, and answer their question instead of lecturing. If you feel that you absolutely should, then lecture lightly with some positive comments, like"well, i really don't think you should breed, but if you do, i wish you a healthy and happy foal!" If you were more positive in your comments, then you may get a better response and more agreement.
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See I agree with you about a lot of it - I don't like breeding when the people don't have the necessary knowledge or facilities, and I personally would be terrified to breed a mare of my own.

I just hate the posts that say if you aren't breeding something that is up to MY standard (The person posting, wether it be breed, papered, looks, conformation, etc.) That you shouldn't breed, you are being irresponsible, and the foal will end up in a kill pen.
 
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