Not sure what's wrong with an Arabs hind end? Do you have a picture? Without seeing what you are it's really hard to give advice?
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why not train the horse you have now instead of breeding more ?
Probably need to do a fecal count see what the parasite level is. made need vet level deworming. Other than that decent hay and grass and exercise.

 

Hi & welcome. Yes, I'm with Joe that I'd at least wait until she's reasonably trained before thinking about foals. I'd also want to get to the bottom...pardon the pun! of the problem, in case it's something that will cause her problems with foaling.

You say it's not conformational - not sure what that means to you or what makes you rule it out. A lot of horses end up with very weak hind ends and end up with drafty type chests from pulling themselves around instead of using their hind. But that she's unbroken, but she could still have injured herself or have a congenital weakness...

So, agree with Poppy we need more info to do more than speculate & sounds like you both may benefit from a good bodyworker checking her out. Also agree with Poppy on Arab's backsides!

 

Eeek theres nothing wrong with an arabs behind but imagine it on a draught front? i was just using it as an example to try explain how bad it looks.

as for getting her trained before breeding from her, she is trained..
iv been doing her the monty roberts way with join up etc, i should of said this before shes perfect now lunges long reins etc and only been out of that type of work for about 3 weeks with abscess but even before abscess it wasnt getting any bigger

i do not think she will ever take to a rider though but that is not why i had her.
riding etc does not bother me (yes id love to get back in saddle)
But i had her for her not the riding part..

She has not got worms shes on a very strict worming programme,
id put a picture up if i knew how if someone could tell me how?

 

Just because she is on a worming schedule does not mean she doesn't have worms.

You go to the go advanced then down a bit you can add a file attachment. Browse for the file on your computer then upload it.

Sounds like perhaps she just needs to learn to work from behind. Why do you not think this horse can be ridden?

 

She don't have worms.. this was first thing that was sorted when I had her..

Why she can not be ridden because she's 10 and she has given me all her trust and shes such a star I don't want to ask it of her really ..
I'm just going to look after her and let her be a horse..

I do not wish to ride her anyway I just want to know why she's not gaining weight on her bum..

I'll try upload piccy now
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sorry but i dont see anything wrong with breaking an older horse.
She may be 10 and she may have given you all her trust but so has my youngster and after a heck of a lot more trauma than your mare.

By not breaking her all you are doing is ensuring that if anything ever happened to you she will be going straight back on the meat wagon.

as for the backside - Correct work helps but some horses just have pathetic backends

 

Yeap, I broke my mare when she was 18 and she was a real rescue.

Also to add when I got her I was told the rescue had her worm problem all sorted too. Haha she was infested with encysted worms. So once again doesn't mean she doesn't have worms.

But also agree that she should be checked for pain as well.

 

before you do anything make sure she hasnt got any previous injuries causing pain in her pelvis or spine. but if shes all clear, look up some videos on engaging the hind end, use those for a month or two, and see if it helps. my friends tb has a HUGE pelvic vertebrae, and the only thign thta helps is engaging the hind and a TON of hill work. walking up, walkng down, trotting up, trotting down, repeat a LOT. hope it helps

 

Need to get a fecal egg count done to know what you need too worm with and when. As far as not ever breaking her to ride your not doing her any justice. All horses should have basic training on the ground and under saddle. Life can bring changes that require us too sell our horses. If their trained and broke to ride they have a better chance of not ending up at the slaughter house. Not saying broke horses never go too slaughter iam sure they do. So do her a favor and break her to ride once broke you can do hill work too build up her hindquarters.

 

Thankyou Ana Ill check that out she's currently going out for few hours in a very hilly paddock and constantly up and down being nosey so hopefully that helps too,

I don't see what the problem is with having a horse without breaking it in! :S
Yes other people may have had older mares broken in, but that's not why I had her and this is not what I asked . Way to make a newbie in need of help feel welcome guys. Lol
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Thankyou Ana Ill check that out she's currently going out for few hours in a very hilly paddock and constantly up and down being nosey so hopefully that helps too,

Yes, that may help(or other exercise, tho I wouldn't be lunging for exercise generally esp if there are issues) if it's just a muscular thing, but if she's pulling herself up the hills because of a pelvic prob or such, she's just as likely to just continue developing that 'DD' chest.

Where is she for the other 21 hours a day if she's only on the hill for a few hours?

& speaking for myself, yes, I did understand what you meant about arab butts! Nothing wrong with drafty chests either, so long as they're on horses that are meant to have 'em!:wink:

 

The biggest reason is in case something happens to you and she needs to be sold. There is a good chance she will just go right back where you got her from if that happens. It is a good idea to put basic training on her in case that happens.

 

If you can post pictures maybe some could give you some help on her hindend issues. If you go to the GO ADVANCED tab click on it, it will bring up a way to post pictures, there is a paperclip click it and it will allow you upload pictures.

It's your horse if you don't want to saddle break her that's your decision I just think people think that if something were to happen to you and you had to sell her she wouldn't end up back at the auction.

 

Cherrysmom you are co-incidentally from very near to where I have just moved from. There are a ton of excellent equine vets in the Bridgnorth area, almost all of whom are also horse riders with a vast amount of knowledge. Without giving the people on this forum a load more information including photos, no-one here can offer better advice than you would get with one of them.

Is her passport Wetherby's? How do you know she's unbroken - by which I mean, have you spoken to all her previous owners, or are you just working on the information given at the sale? Was she bought at auction or private sale? It's extremely unusual for a TB to get to 10 years old in the UK without being backed - we just don't have the space for herds to run around like that!

I'm only asking lots of questions because it really is difficult to offer constructive thoughts without more information.

 

I think you should get her checked my the vet. If at some point down the road you want to breed her then you really want to make sure there is nothing wrong this her hind end. Where did you get her from? I'm assuming unbroke is she's never been back at all? There are plenty of horses that are not able to be ridden that find wonderful homes (if you ever have to sell her).

 

in the UK the vast majority of unridable horses have a horrible journey into Europe and end up in a dog food can (or more recently Tesco frozen beef burgers).

We have so many ponies wwho are easier keepers, require less in the way of upkeep, are hardier, can be wintered out etc that no one has any need at all for 16hh or unridable TB that will need to be stables, rugged up and fed to the eyeballs just to keep it from looking like a hat rack.
If people want a companion they normaly go for a 12hh pony that requires a brush every now and again.