Harley, I know you know your horses and care for them, but I have to agree with NdAppy about this. Teach them to stand for the ferriar..From just your posts and threads you've started, I don't think it's a good idea for you to trim your horses yourself. If you want to learn to trim your horses yourself it takes time, people go to school for it. It's not something someone with not much experience can just pick up and do themselves.. I'd hate for you to try to trim your horses and end up with a bigger vet bill than a ferriar bill.