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Hey guys,

Anyone else living the same situation as i am right now? Just had my horse disgnosed with heaves, COPD and she is boarded 15 minutes away from my house. They only give round bales and there's not really any other paddocks i can put my horse in to feed her wet square bales instead.

*** we don't really have much choices to board horses, very small town ***

If someone is going through the same problem, how are you dealing with a horse that has heaves and is not on your property?

Thanks in advance,
Josee
 

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My mare has heaves i dont board but we do feed round bales and its never been an issue for her. Heat and humidity is what makes my mare have problems with heaves. And its been hot and humid too.

I feed her MSM and that makes a huge diffrence she hardly ever has a heave attack with the MSM. Although the last four days shes been have trouble. Called vet shes going to get me some meds to give her. What iam using isnt working very good. Shes going to need dex to get her over this attack.
 

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You need to keep her out of the roundbale or you won't have your horse much longer.
You say" not really another paddock".... so is there another possibility?
Speak to the barn owner, maybe with your vet present.
Another possibility would be a slowfeeder net, different paddock, of course. Due to the small openings in such a net horse can pull out very little at a time with hardly any dust coming up. They make those nets for roundbales, too. That might be a solution for your situation.
Don't stall her. Period.
She will keep this disease for life, no cure. So management is key. Meds like dex should be only used during a crisis, too many side effects and again, not a cure.
 

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Yes i am aware that it's chronic so she will have it forever and i need to control it. Thanks for the tips :)

Spirit88, what exactly is MSM? Ive never heard of that.
The only meds i currently have is Ventipulmin that the vet prescribed her when diagnosed.
 

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MSM is a dietary source of sulfur. All i know is it sure helps my mare she hasnt been on it this summer though. So thats why shes having issues right now.

You can get MSM from most catalogs it cheap and well worth trying. I get mine from horse.com 10lbs last 320 days for 39.99 plus shipping which isnt much.

The Dex works for when shes bad never have had any bad side affects but dont use it alot either.
 

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I know what you are going through. I managed my horse for 4 years but he was on my own property. You have to get the horse off of round bales as soon as possible. Wet the hay if possible. MSM is good and vitamin C if you can get the BO to ad to the feed. Also keep your horse outside 24/7 if possible.

It is a very worrisome problem but careful management can make your horse much more comfortable.
 

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Yep everyone keeps telling me to keep her off round bales which is my next plan ive just informed myself there's a place that still has a full pasture of tall grass to eat from so she will be moving there, the longer she can be on the grass, the better. Then the next step will be to buy my own square bales

It's gonna be very hard to move away from the other place but my horse's health will always come first. Thanks ya'll

Was told to put Mazola oil in her grains (also known as corn oil) apparently it soothes their throat, is this true? Ive always heard anything that has to do with corn is dangerous for the horse and may cause colic, what are you opinions on that?
 

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No don't use corn oil. If anything you can use flax oil. I use it for my horses. Your horse is very fortunate that you are so caring.
 

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Ok thanks so flax oil, this may sound as a weird question but can i find that in a grocery store?

And to keep everyone updated, my mare is moving out tomorrow to the new place with the huge pasture full of tall grass :) i think she will be spoiled and very happy! Closer to my home too that's a bonus!
 

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I am not sure if you can get Flax Oil at the grocery store but certainly at the feed store or Health Food store. If you have a feed store near you it is about $30 to $35 for a gallon which will last for about 4 to 5 months and give about 2 Tbs per feed.

Good luck. I feel for your worries, it is very difficult but your horse is fortunate that you care as much as you do.
 

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Sorry just reading up on things I should know. What is this disease? What causes it? Is there a way to prevent it? And what does it do?
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Sorry just reading up on things I should know. What is this disease? What causes it? Is there a way to prevent it? And what does it do?
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It's like COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) in people. The airways & lungs don't work so well & it can be hard to breathe. The airways get smaller & there can be areas of the lungs that can't exchange air. It's usually caused by irritants, untreated chronic coughs, pneumonia & often times one never knows why. When you see someone wearing oxygen that is often the reason.
It can be treated with meds to help open the airways & decrease inflammation.
There is no cure for chronic cases but new cases will often resolve if the source of irritation is removed soon enough & treatment begun.
 

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Heaves is like asthma and allergies. Mainly it is caused by mold breathed in from eating round bales. Once a horse gets heaves, they have it for life. There is no cure. It can be managed by controlling dust and with medication. Horses that eat from a round bale tend to bury their head into it while they eat. They then breathe in dust and mold spores which cause heaves or aggravate it. There is a shot you can get from a vet to help control it. It's a steroid shot but not a huge dose of it.

You need to limit exposure to dust by not feeding round bales, you can wet the hay down, and try to limit exposure to dust from dirt roads and harvest time.
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And what it really does is that the horse breaths heavily with big nostrils and when it's bad you can hear a little wheezing sound coming from the nostril. That means that the airwaves are very tight. If not controlled or left untreated, you will eventually see a 'heave line' because they are using a lot of energy just trying to breath and they can also lose weight. (Im kinda refering to my mare right now although you don't see a heave line because she's not to that point she's just in the beginning of the first stage.) You might start noticing that your horse is coughing when you ride him, let's say only when you start trotting or cantering and doing hard work. Then it gradually moves to the heavy breathing...
Wish i knew from the beginning that she was showing me signs all along but was not well enough educated on that disease and let her eat round bales.

Now all she will ever eat are square bales and they will all be separated into small pieces and shaken to make sure no dust is inside. She has only arrived yesterday to the new barn. She's eating grass with her new 2 buddies and is already much better, the heavy breathing is gone :)
ps sorry for the long post lol
 

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And what it really does is that the horse breaths heavily with big nostrils and when it's bad you can hear a little wheezing sound coming from the nostril. That means that the airwaves are very tight. If not controlled or left untreated, you will eventually see a 'heave line' because they are using a lot of energy just trying to breath and they can also lose weight. (Im kinda refering to my mare right now although you don't see a heave line because she's not to that point she's just in the beginning of the first stage.) You might start noticing that your horse is coughing when you ride him, let's say only when you start trotting or cantering and doing hard work. Then it gradually moves to the heavy breathing...
Wish i knew from the beginning that she was showing me signs all along but was not well enough educated on that disease and let her eat round bales.

Now all she will ever eat are square bales and they will all be separated into small pieces and shaken to make sure no dust is inside. She has only arrived yesterday to the new barn. She's eating grass with her new 2 buddies and is already much better, the heavy breathing is gone :)
ps sorry for the long post lol
It's not your fault. Many horses eat from round bales & do fine. You've moved her & she is already better so don't give up hope. This could be a transient thing. A course of antibiotics could be in order to help clear her system.

My older mare recently had a slight cough, not hard or often but still a concern. Two weeks on SMZ's (antibiotic) cleared it up, diagnosed as bronchitis. The vet said it could have turned into heaves if left alone.
She's fine now. BTW, she has never eaten from a round bale so you see it can happen no matter what,

The important thing is that you took action quickly. You did good.:D
 
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