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I know I am new here and will post a introduction soon but I have a injured horse I could use some suggestions on.
Last week Thursday, my trainer decided to pull the girth to tight on a horse. Only reason I have a trainer is because this horse has been bucking lately and my back just can't handle it. Anyways, with the girth to tight the horse flipped out. Started bucking and running, destroyed a chair, some fencing before running across the street. She fell on her front knee before skidding across the street. She immediatly got up and started to buck again into the woods before running back into the barn.
The trainer insisted to let it go, she will be fine. I treated her wounds anyways, just who I am. I stayed at the barn until about 11, she was acting fine. The next morning I was back at 8am and she just turned for the worse.
She walked sideways, shaking from pain. Her knee is severly swollen and she has some proud flesh. We called the vet in, got her on antiobotic SMZ for a week and bute to help with pain. She had cold hose soaks twice a day and on stall rest.
Now it has been a week and she is still swollen. Very lame and we have been trying to get her to flex her knee which she does but with resistance. We have a concern about her muscles in her knee.
Just wondering if anyone else has any suggestions to try??

I was mentioned this morning to look into joint capsule infection :(. I do have pics but no clue to be honest if they should be posted being so graphic and also no idea how!!

Thank you in advance.


PS, I did mention to the trainer the next day what had set the horse off. She had indentation marks from the girth. She said unlikely and it was probally a bee sting. I am still trying to make sense on how a bee sting can cause two vertical lines on a horse resembling girth lines... needless to say she is not coming back
 

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If my horse is swollen my vet reccomends light walking to reduce some of it to make them more comfortable. Obviously if your mare is in alot of pain extra walking is probably the last thing she needs. I use Manuka honey on cuts all types and it helps them to heal up nicely it must have a UMF of above 20 though to be any use with fighting infection etc.
 

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Since the vet is already on the case, I would be discussing this with him/her


I have, the vet seems to think to let it go. They told me this with my filly also when I called and reported her spacey. They probally think I am a little crazy. But I know my horses and know this is not normal. Turned out in a few hours my filly went into full blown colic.
I just think this is more than what the vets think!
 

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If my horse is swollen my vet reccomends light walking to reduce some of it to make them more comfortable. Obviously if your mare is in alot of pain extra walking is probably the last thing she needs. I use Manuka honey on cuts all types and it helps them to heal up nicely it must have a UMF of above 20 though to be any use with fighting infection etc.

we have been walking her daily for exercise and to avoid colic. But only to what she can handle...we won't push her to far.
I will look into Manuka honey... thank you!!

Anyone have experience using rose mary? I was mentioned to try that to help with the swelling.
 

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Well, injuries as severe as the one you describe can take a lot of time to heal. And the purpose of swelling is to immobilize the affected area, so I wouldn't be trying to flex it much.

If you think the vet is wrong, get a second opinion. I live about an hour and a half from my equine vet. There is a GP ten miles down the road. If I have an issue, I call the GP (she is much better with horses than our last GP). If I don't like what I'm hearing, or if she suggests it, I call the equine guy. There are some situations in which I immediately call the equine vet, but those are rare. The point is, not all vets are created equal. I am in no way trying to malign ANY vet, but if you are not satisfied, you might consider finding another. Keep in mind, though, that some owners often don't like what a vet tells them regarding treatments and/or recovery times. I had a horse go through the trailer floor while it was going down the road, and it took a loooooong time to heal. I really felt bad for him, and I was impatient to see him better, but I followed every single step of the treatment plan because I knew the vet was right.

What do you consider severe swelling? I would go ahead and post the pictures, maybe put a "graphic images" warning in the thread title if you feel that's necessary. But pics will definitely help the rest of us give you advice.

Good luck!
 

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Just making sure I can do this.

Okay, got it figured out. First, go to the Post Reply button (not the quick reply section). Scroll down to the Additional Options section, and click Manage Attachments. A window pops up, and there is a table that shows file tags and the allowable size of the pictures. Once you are sure your pic is the right size, click the Browse button, find your file, and attach it. Click the Preview Post button to make sure it worked. I hope this works for you! I'm not sure how to upload a photo from a URL, sorry.
 

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Pictures of injury

Thank You for explaining....

We now have a new concern, when she walks her back leg shakes and walks at a angle with it. :(
 

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Oooo looks like one my horse get last year i was reccomended by 3 vets to get a new clean natural bristled nail brush then get boiling water and salt firstly scrub it to ensure its clean.

then out some drops of tea tree oil into a baisin of water and clean the cut thouroughly with that.
(As my girl started to heal up i stopped the nail brush and just put one straight drop of tea tree into the cut twice a day which kept it lovely and clean.)

Then i would put manuka honey on a poultice and strap her twice a day between hosing untill it started to look clean with new skin coming up at that stage strap it only at night to allow air at it.

For the shking walk id get a vet out for that definitely i have no clue at all!!
 

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What exactly do you mean by walking at an angle? Does she swing her leg forwrd at an angle, or does she shift her weight funny, or does she carry herself crooked?
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I wouldn't worry much about the wounds. They seem pretty superficial. There may be more serious damage to the joint or tendons but you would need at least an x-ray and that would only tell you if the bone is damaged.
 

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she shifts her weight oddly before settling her leg down to bare weight on it. Her back end walks in a angle. You can visably see the leg shake as she brings it back down to stand on. We are thinking she pulled a muscle or something but it has been over a week now to no improvement.

The wounds all look good but one behind her leg, it is a deep cut that does in deep into her flesh. We are highly concerned about that one more tahn any other ones. Her knee is really swollen still also.

We have been cold hosing her twice a day. The vet did come out and placed her on SMZ twice a day for 10 days and bute twice a day for 3 days. We also use wound-kote spray on her legs once we hose them clean. She is on stall rest to walks from myself or my husband to avoid colic...really don't want that again.
 

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Has the vet been out a second time? I'm just curious what he would say about this hind limb thing.

If it were my horse, I'd masage over all her muscles. One good thing about this, is if there is any muscle damage, you will find it. When you get to an area that is tender, make note of it. Sometimes injuries in one part of the body, like the back, will show up as lameness. I would also get a flexion test of the affected limb to rule out joint injuries.

My favorite thing for cleaning a deep cut is a 35 mm syringe from 2-3 inches away.

Edited to add: How is the swelling in her knee now compared to the day after the injury?
 

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The swelling in the knee is the same as it was last week when she injured it. She was injured May 6. The vet is due back out next week to see her again but I might cancel and call in a second opinion.
She won't let us press on her yet without attempting to bite, she is in a lot of pain. We have been just using a soft brush to brush her lightly right now.
 

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Could the leg be broken? Maybe not a complete break but a fracture of some sort? The swelling looks considerable. I don't say this to cause you more concern as you have enough obviously but just for you to consider if you hadn't already. Guess it's an unknown without an xray? I agree you should get a second opinion asap.

I do wish you & your horse well and I can relate to your anquish about her condition. My horse is suffering badly now with a month old severe laceration to his left hind and an iffy prognosis.
 
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