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So I have a 7-year-old mare quarter horse, she really isn't that moody and is really not that spooky in general. When I first got her (back in Agust 2019) she did really well, then began to get a little fussy. We think her back was sore at the time, so we worked that out gave her some time off as well. At this point, she didn't have shoes on and she is a jumping horse. We got her shoed for the first time, and the second time (only front shoes), she clipped one bending it, so we got it fixed. Then a barely a week later the shoe fell off (none of this is under saddle), so got it fixed and had a new better more reputable farrier out. Again a week later she threw a shoe, and it's insanely bent (this happened while lunging her). My trainer suggested bell boots so we are going to try that, but any other thoughts?

She did a lot better once we got shoes put on her, and seemed to be a lot more sound with shoes on so I really don't want to take them off.




Hope this all make sense, I realize its kind of scattered
 

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So I have a 7-year-old mare quarter horse, she really isn't that moody and is really not that spooky in general. When I first got her (back in Agust 2019) she did really well, then began to get a little fussy. We think her back was sore at the time, so we worked that out gave her some time off as well. At this point, she didn't have shoes on and she is a jumping horse. We got her shoed for the first time, and the second time (only front shoes), she clipped one bending it, so we got it fixed. Then a barely a week later the shoe fell off (none of this is under saddle), so got it fixed and had a new better more reputable farrier out. Again a week later she threw a shoe, and it's insanely bent (this happened while lunging her). My trainer suggested bell boots so we are going to try that, but any other thoughts?

She did a lot better once we got shoes put on her, and seemed to be a lot more sound with shoes on so I really don't want to take them off.

In my opinion, if a horse is going to catch a shoe with another foot (usually the hind), the bell boot is NOT going to stop the force required to bend or pull it off. If they are going to "come down" on the edge of that shoe, the bell boot isn't going to stop that from happening.



Usually, if a horse is frequently bend/pulling shoes they are
1) not being put on correctly ... which means you need to find a new farrier

2) the horse has another unaddressed lameness issue


More information on your horse would be helpful. Has the horse ever had a full lameness evaluation with an equine specialist? Including flexions and watching the horse move?
If the horse has not, that would be your first place to start.


For a while, my horse Red pulled his front shoes like crazy -- like every week he would bend/pull one or the other. That went on all summer until I discovered he had a "catchy' right stifle. Got that taken care of and the shoe pulling magically stopped. He would probably end up "scrambling" in order to compensate for the stifle, and that's why he kept catching his own feet. So that's why I say that other undiagnosed lameness issues might be to blame.
 

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I can count on one hand the number of shoes my horses have pulled in 30 years.


A horse pulling shoes more than rarely usually has some or all of the following issues:

- poor farrier work (shoes not on properly, hooves unbalanced, toe left too long, etc)


- farrier work needs to be done more frequently (a lot of horses pull shoes if going longer than 5-6 week shoeing cycle)


- poor hooves (thrushy, soft, shelly, etc. -- often nutritional and/or environmental)


- underlying unsoundness (navicular, stifle or hock problems, etc.)


Do you have photos of the horse's hooves?

What does your farrier say?
Has this horse had a complete lameness evaluation/workup with radiographs lately? If not, that may be a good place to start, especially as you say the horse is noticeably sounder with shoes on and has had some potential soreness/fussy issues. That often points to an underlying issue.
 

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You have good advice as far as getting everything checked over.
Without see your horse specifically no one can give you a sure fix.

The good news is this should be a fixable issue.
 

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Your horse is forging...aka hitting itself hence the bent shoe.
Speak to the farrier and tell them when it is happening...
Sounds like the horse at a gait faster than a walk is clipping {here is the forging}...
Is your horse long backed or butt high build?
Seems to go together was my experience watching horses who dinged...
Bell boots might help some, but the farrier needs to know when this is happening to do any remedy work to his shoeing job.
You might need a shoe set with slightly shorter in length heel or set forward on the hoof a bit...
It only takes a millimeter of catch to yank a shoe...Be glad the shoe is giving and not taking hunks of hoof with it!! :eek:mg:...now that is a disaster and not good.
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