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Horse Went “Insane” Overnight

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Hey guys. This is going to be a long one but it’s an interesting case and I need all the help I can get. I used to work with BLM mustangs and have always trained my own horses.

I bought my horse a few years ago as a 9 year old and he was scared to be touched/worked with due to rough handling. I had a PPE done on him before buying him and there were no signs of neuro issues or lameness. After I trained him for a few months he became the best horse I could ever wish for. I ran him on barrels and he was a wonderful, trustworthy partner. I was riding him completely tackles for over a year because he was so wonderful and we got along well, even to the point of riding him alone and tackless in a 200 acre field without issue. He is now 11.

During the winter, I had not ridden him for a month because I wasn’t a fan of riding in -10 degree weather. The month he had off of riding he’d run up to me, excited to see me until the day he went “insane”. I only brought him in from his 300x500 foot pasture to brush and eat his supplements (whole oats, magnesium, probiotics, and gutx) during his time off.

He then suddenly went “insane” overnight. I could not catch him for hours and if I did catch him, he was shaking like a leaf scared of me. There was no swelling or signs of lameness at all throughout his entire body. There was nothing that had changed in his diet. I kept him on gutx and only used ulcerguard when I’d make any major changes (ex: moving to a new state) as a preventative. I kept him at a self care boarding property so nobody had handled or touched my horse except for me but he was with 3 other horses and was at the bottom of the pecking order.

Fast forward a few months later after letting him be a horse (only handling for supplement feeding, brushing, farrier/vet work) and moving to a new state, I started him over. On the ground, I could be working with him and he would be so relaxed with a low headset and very nice movement. Then he would just suddenly go crazy backing up like crazy or spook about something. Sometimes he’d spook about something as little as me touching any part of his body and he would nearly run me over. The behavior was consistently corrected during those episodes.

Because we built more confidence on the ground and wasn’t acting “insane”, I believed he was ready to be ridden again as he was calm and content. Within 2 seconds on being on him, without reason he blew up. Here’s how it went, I sat on him and he was calm, licking and chewing with his low headset. Then for no reason or movement from me, his head shot up and his entire body tensed and started shaking. When I leaned over to get off thinking he was going to lose it, he immediately went into a small rear/bucking/spinning fit and I was off. Once I was off he backed up like a bat out of hell approximately 4 feet then was back to his calm self looking at me as if he was wondering why I was on the ground, very calm.

For a few weeks later, we worked a lot on calming down, using the thinking side of his brain and allowing him to say “no” to things that got him worked up. I got him so calm he was lazy for weeks so I put a saddle on, did more ground work and continued working on using his brain. He was not spooky or reactive at all.

Because he was seemingly normal after about a week or so of ground work with a saddle, I hopped on, politely and calmly and began walking (for about 10 seconds) once I felt he was going to be okay. He was nice and calm then suddenly his head shot up, entire body tensed and started shaking so I jumped off before I got bucked. He then threw a buck once I was on the ground, backed up like crazy but then was back to his normal self looking at me as if he was wondering what had happened. He showed no signs of discomfort to the saddle and never said “no” to anything. I had a loping hackamore on him during this “ride”.

I had multiple vets come out to see him for blood work and lameness exams and everything came back normal. No signs of pain in any part of the body, and no ulcers or sand. Because there were no signs of pain or anything wrong, radiographs were not done. The only thing we did not do was a neuro exam because he never showed signs of being uncoordinated, no tripping, no falling, etc. so the vets felt it was not neuro. I also had a chiropractor out but there was no change in his behavior after that was done. Teeth were floated last spring and there appeared to be no issues with teeth when the vets checked him over. I’ve put so much money into this horse recently just to be told there’s nothing wrong.

How could this horse go from the best mount I ever had to suddenly losing his mind? Does this sound neurological? I have EPM treatment coming in the mail and if that doesn’t work, I don’t know what more could be done. I will no longer be riding him unless I can figure out if its a health issue, neurological issue, or if I need to consider euthanasia due to his behavior. I will NEVER sell this horse. I love him and I would never in the right mind sell a horse like this knowing he would end up in a kill pen or passed around to new owners in the USA because of his behavior.

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Well you are off to a good start on the EPM meds.. I was going to suggest maybe EPM but you are really ahead of me on that one,, Have had him checked for kissing spines?

What type of diet is he on? As in feed wise, supplements and hay.
 
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He was on grass hay and alfalfa then after I moved he’s now on alfalfa. He always hated being on grass unless I was holding the lead rope (goofy horse). The behavior has not worsened or changed after being on alfalfa full time. I just recently changed his supplement grain to triple crown low starch low sugar to see if the oats were an issue but that did not change anything.

I brought up kissing spine to my vets but after thoroughly palpating his back they all determined it would be a waste of money to x-ray due to the lack of pain.
 
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Man what a good looking horse he is!! Is there any possibility that somebody tampered with him when you weren't doing anything with him, or used him inbetween times that you didn't know about?
 
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@ACinATX had mentioned lyme. I would second that. Especially since it's hard to detect and causes severe neuro issues. It can take a decade to show up, but I know someone who one second was walking fine and chatting, but would suddenly drop to the floor, mouth foaming, convulsing, then get right back up again.

This is late stage lyme, and she had to see a LLMD, not the regular kind of MD. I don't think there are LLMDs for horses.
 
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I had a horse with what I would call PTSD. He could be great but if he saw certain triggers he would have a meltdown. He was beaten very badly before I got him and seeing certain things would make him remember the trauma.

For example, he would panic if he heard gunshots. It sounded like a whip to him

He would panic if he saw people moving around horse trailers at a campground. Dayrides he was fine, but staying somewhere overnight would put his anxiety through the roof.

If you opened a map on his back, he was fine. I made the mistake of getting off and opening the map. He panicked at that and bolted and didn't stop until he left the park and reached the highway.

I had a man ride him one time and he took off with him. The look on his face was of horror (the horse, not the man). He was terrified.

I stopped riding him and gave him to a companion home. He needed neighbors that didn't shoot and he needed to never be ridden again. He wasn't a bad horse and he could be very sweet.

What his original owners did was torture and he just couldn't overcome that. He was fine in the woods away from people and he was for the most part fine with me. Certain sights or sounds would trigger bad memories for him. You could tell he wanted to trust, but I truly believe he had flashbacks to the abuse.

Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing in rehoming him rather than euthanizing because he carried so much anxiety and fear and he was losing vision in one eye. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. He was a young horse and could still live a long life (last I heard he was still doing well). His new owner does not ride and he is just a pasture pet.

As for his abuse I believe he was tied between pillars and whipped to make him dance- probably repeatedly to inflict that much mental trauma. When I first got him home, he would stand in a corner and shake if you approached him.

I would read about PTSD in humans and assume that your horse is probably affected similarly. I will say my horse carried a great deal of anxiety all the time.

He could have seen something out in the pasture and it reminded him of the abuse and that is why he regressed seemingly overnight. I will say I once had my horses at the neighbors house and some men stole his deer feeder out of the pasture in the middle of the night. It definitely freaked out my horses and they were pacing at the gate the next morning waiting for me to get them out of there. No one saw what happened so they could have been drunk and went after the horses, who knows?

Who knows what he saw that could have upset him but I'm betting your horse saw something that made him feel panicked.
 
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I have 2 thoughts on this horse.

Ages ago, I raised a lil Appaloosa horse that had pneumonia as yearling. Ran an extremely high temp for a week, then it tapered off instead of just breaking. I believe he had brain damage from it. He started just fine, turned into a really neat lil cowhorse. But, you had to start him every year. He had no retentive memory. Every year, you started from scratch. He wasn't mean or dumb, he just couldn't remember.

My other thought is about a horse I knew of that was brought to a trainer I know. One day the horse was normal, just a regular easy going kind of guy. The next day, he was a raving lunatic! No consistency about it, all so completely random. The owner was so frustrated, he finally gave the ok to put him down. Once they did, they split his skull and one half of his brain was literally atrophied into nothing.

Don't know if your horse is the way of either of those, but they were so out of the ordinary, I thought they were worth mentioning here.
 
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