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I just saw someone else with this kind of thread and i was just wondering do you think Oscar could go far in Dressage?
Hes a 17.1hh thoroughbred or ISH not 100% sure THink its tb though.

PLEASE dont critique my riding in the pics. I know what im doind wrong and ive had pics up in the critique section so i know whats wrong just dont have any newer clips!
thanks:)

also theres one of the pics and my leg is very far behind the girth. i was getting him to do leg yielding

check out YouTube - xLaurenOscarx's Channel for clips!
cant upload them here:(
thanks in advance:)
 

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You dont really have any pictures of him bending or doing basic movements. You probably couldnt do PSG on him, but most horses who have a decent gait and good work ethic can do at least 2nd level. Most importiantly the rider has to give the horse enough time/training and "inspiration." A horse could have all the ability in the world but you have to be dedicated to get him there.
 

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You dont really have any pictures of him bending or doing basic movements. You probably couldnt do PSG on him, but most horses who have a decent gait and good work ethic can do at least 2nd level. Most importiantly the rider has to give the horse enough time/training and "inspiration." A horse could have all the ability in the world but you have to be dedicated to get him there.

i have some vids of us leg yielding up i think on the link? i think i do anyway? whats psg?

aw i know i was just wondering for the fun what others thought:)
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The second pic is nice. Lots of length in that trot, some overtrack, looks like he's on the aids and working happily.

The walk photo shows something different; not much stepping under at all.

Why on earth is he wearing a running martingale in the third shot? Just curious,

If he's willing and happy doing the work, I'd say second level easily.

Without a good conformation shot, it's hard to evaluate his hind end. In some of the photos he looks a little short from the croup to the point of hip; he may lack the engine to do upper level work, but honestly, that's a guess.

When you say how far can he go, there are really three questions implied:

How far can he go schooling the movements of a level? Probably as far as you want.

How far can he go and be competive?

How far can he go competing at a level and stay sound doing it?

As for the second two, I would see how well he tolerates the introduction of collection at second level; and make an evaluation then. He also looks like he could benefit from a lot of Training and 1st level work to put more muscle on his topline. It's amazing what a dedicated rider, riding consistently and correctly, can do to develp musclature on a horse.

TBs or TB types are not really welll built or designed for collected work. There are, of course, wonderful exceptions, but usually they are developed through a careful training regimen. It just doesn't come as easy to them as to warmbloods.
 

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The second pic is nice. Lots of length in that trot, some overtrack, looks like he's on the aids and working happily.

The walk photo shows something different; not much stepping under at all.

Why on earth is he wearing a running martingale in the third shot.

If he's willing and happy doing the work, I'd say second level easily.

Without a good conformation shot, it's hard to evaluate his hind end. In some of the photos he looks a little short from the croup to the point of hip; he may lack the engine to do upper level work, but honestly, that's a guess.

When you say how far can he go, there are really three questions implied:

How far can he go schooling the movements of a level? Probably as far as you want.

How far can he go and be competive?

How far can he go competing at a level and stay sound doing it?

I would see how well he tolerates the introduction of collection at second level; and make an evaluation then. He also looks like he could benefit from a lot of Training and 1st level work to put more muscle on his topline. It's amazing what a dedicated rider, riding consistenly and correctly, can do to develp musclature on a horse.
i took him to a dressage clinic and the woman said he overtracks by a hoof and a half.
because when he doesnt wear one his heads straight up in the air and when he gets excited he throws his head up and tanks off.
at this moment in time hes lacking muscle in his hind end becuase hes been off hard work for a while but once he gets back fit and ready he should hopefully be muscled up. before he was off work he had a mucsly quarters.
yeah ive been working on his topline but once hes in top shape something happens and hes out of work. for example start of the year he was eventing fit and then he got near fatal colic.

thanks for your comments anyway:)
 

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Again, just curious --

He looks like a fabulous eventing type - is there a reason you'd consider doing just dressage?

"i took him to a dressage clinic and the woman said he overtracks by a hoof and a half." I believe it - and I'd also believe he has a much better walk than that photo shows.

I really like him. And I'll bet you can get a nice enough Training or 1st level test out of him to be very, very competive eventing.
 

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Again, just curious --

He looks like a fabulous eventing type - is there a reason you'd consider doing just dressage?

"i took him to a dressage clinic and the woman said he overtracks by a hoof and a half." I believe it - and I'd also believe he has a much better walk than that photo shows.

I really like him. And I'll bet you can get a nice enough Training or 1st level test out of him to be very, very competive eventing.

he is actually unreal eventer (dont mean to be boastful or anything) hes so honest and careful xc and great jumper only thing is he gets strong xc and is very hard to hold. hes a big lad like lol.
see im not too sure. i took too bad falls earlier in the year which actually shattered my confidence and its the 1st time in 10 years my confidence has been shattered and ive taken a million diffrnt falls so still getting over this one.
i was just curious as to what other people thought of him as a dressage horse. i dont think i could not jump him because hes quite scopey.
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Hes a 17.1hh thoroughbred or ISH not 100% sure THink its tb though.
He's the spitting image of my horse! Who is an ISH (50% Selle Francais, 25% ID, 25% TB)

He looks like he could do lower level Dressage -I forget what all the levels are - Prelim, Novice, and maybe the next one up from that ...
 

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He's the spitting image of my horse! Who is an ISH (50% Selle Francais, 25% ID, 25% TB)

He looks like he could do lower level Dressage -I forget what all the levels are - Prelim, Novice, and maybe the next one up from that ...
Is he lol!
The reason we think he's tb though is because everyone says he's raced but no one knows for certain becuase i got him not knowing and history at all.

kk thanks:)
 

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Is he lol!
The reason we think he's tb though is because everyone says he's raced but no one knows for certain becuase i got him not knowing and history at all.

kk thanks:)
if you want to know if hes ever raced check the inside of his upper lip, its something they do if the horses even just raced once :D lol im excited because i just learned that a few weeks ago.
 

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if you want to know if hes ever raced check the inside of his upper lip, its something they do if the horses even just raced once :D lol im excited because i just learned that a few weeks ago.
what would be on the inside of their lip?
il check tomorrow:D
thanks for telling me!:)
 

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Virtually every horse can do lower level Dressage. Levels like pre-training, training and even level 1 are moreso based on manners and training, and movements don't come into effect all that much. Getting up into level 2 and level 3, you're going to see more of that become necessary as they start asking for more extension and collection.

Your horse does not say Dressage to me. He says jumper. He could play around in the lower levels, but if he's that energetic and bad with his head, the training you'd have to put into him doesn't even seem worth it for as far as he's going to get.

But that's just my honest opinion. Dressage is great regardless for any horse, I plan on training my Paint mare for it. I know she'll never make it past the lower levels, but she has some lovely movement on the flat so she may surprise me. I chose Dressage because so far from what I've seen, it seems to be what she'd be best suited at. I think you can never go wrong by allowing your horses natural function to dictate what discipline you compete in - you'll both be a lot happier :D
 

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Virtually every horse can do lower level Dressage. Levels like pre-training, training and even level 1 are moreso based on manners and training, and movements don't come into effect all that much. Getting up into level 2 and level 3, you're going to see more of that become necessary as they start asking for more extension and collection.

Your horse does not say Dressage to me. He says jumper. He could play around in the lower levels, but if he's that energetic and bad with his head, the training you'd have to put into him doesn't even seem worth it for as far as he's going to get.

But that's just my honest opinion. Dressage is great regardless for any horse, I plan on training my Paint mare for it. I know she'll never make it past the lower levels, but she has some lovely movement on the flat so she may surprise me. I chose Dressage because so far from what I've seen, it seems to be what she'd be best suited at. I think you can never go wrong by allowing your horses natural function to dictate what discipline you compete in - you'll both be a lot happier :D
do horses not need to be energetic for dressage? becuase they all look verryyyy energetic!
hes not all that bad once he settles. if i put work into him im sure he could settle his head. he needs the martingale for jumping but hes alright flatwork:)
kk thanks for your opinoin:D
good luck with your paint:)
yeah i just thought becuase naturally he has a long stride and expressive trot especially extended.
 

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Stupid question - do horses that race in the UK get lip tatoos the same as North American TBs? How do they identify racehorses in Europe?

LaurenOscar, an American or Canadian TB that's raced, or progressed far enough it it's training to get a gate card, had a tattoo on the inside of it's upper lip. You can also use the tattoo to verify age -- the first digit of the tattoo is a letter cooresponding to the year in which the horse was foaled.

Horses that raced extensivly will often lift the upper lift when you start messing with it, because they become so accustomed to the stewards checking the tattoo.
 

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Stupid question - do horses that race in the UK get lip tatoos the same as North American TBs? How do they identify racehorses in Europe?

LaurenOscar, an American or Canadian TB that's raced, or progressed far enough it it's training to get a gate card, had a tattoo on the inside of it's upper lip. You can also use the tattoo to verify age -- the first digit of the tattoo is a letter cooresponding to the year in which the horse was foaled.

Horses that raced extensivly will often lift the upper lift when you start messing with it, because they become so accustomed to the stewards checking the tattoo.
i dunno if they do.. i dont think so but im not 100%! il check for you tomorrow because theres an x racehorse at the yard so il check:)

o okk thanks! i didnt know that! il double check ozzy tomorrow but i dont think he has one..
oscar lifts his lip up if i start rubbing it or playing with it! lol
 
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