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My 26 year old horse can be quite a fart. :neutral:
everytime i go to sinch the barebackpad or saddle sinch, she bares her teeth at me! do you guys know how to stop this...for ever?
not to mension that she puffs up her belly every time i go to put the barebackpad or saddle on! do you guys know how to stop this also??? it is quite annoying, and i dont want her to think i am going to hurt her. :(

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She bares her teeth at you, you need to wallop her a good one, don't hold back. I got bit by a stallion when I was cinching up too fast for him, he got me good on the hip, drew blood. My reaction was to punch him right in the head, I didn't even think about it, was just my defense. I later on bought that horse when he was a gelding, he doesn't think about biting in mine or anyone's direction, although he does put his ears back when tightening up a cinch or girth but he doesn't turn and look at me, so I ignore it. As for the pufferfish reaction when tightening up your cinch, do it slowly and in stages. The best way I found is tighten a little, pick out a hoof, tighten some more, pick out another hoof, foolproof method.
 

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Thank You!

She bares her teeth at you, you need to wallop her a good one, don't hold back. I got bit by a stallion when I was cinching up too fast for him, he got me good on the hip, drew blood. My reaction was to punch him right in the head, I didn't even think about it, was just my defense. I later on bought that horse when he was a gelding, he doesn't think about biting in mine or anyone's direction, although he does put his ears back when tightening up a cinch or girth but he doesn't turn and look at me, so I ignore it. As for the pufferfish reaction when tightening up your cinch, do it slowly and in stages. The best way I found is tighten a little, pick out a hoof, tighten some more, pick out another hoof, foolproof method.
Thank You so much! i will try that method. and if i have to.. wallop her...:-(
thanx again!
 

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How long have you had her? Is this new behaviour?

Biting isn't acceptable but I would like to be sure what the reason for it is:

Is she being a baggage?

Or is she in pain?

At 26 years old her body may not be performing as well as it used to and you getting on, or doing up the cinch may be really painful. The puffing up is certainly a less dangerous attempt by her to protect herself.

I think we need a bit more information before I'm ready to go with the walloping advice.
 

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How long have you had her? Is this new behaviour?

Biting isn't acceptable but I would like to be sure what the reason for it is:

Is she being a baggage?

Or is she in pain?

At 26 years old her body may not be performing as well as it used to and you getting on, or doing up the cinch may be really painful. The puffing up is certainly a less dangerous attempt by her to protect herself.

I think we need a bit more information before I'm ready to go with the walloping advice.
Glory is deffanitally not in pain. she has done this ever since my grandma bought her. i now own her, and she is being even more of a fart.
she does this everytime. even when i just grab the sinch, an ddont attempt to tighten it.
i agree with the walloping thing.. i would never whip her.. only if i really had to :(
 

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My mare did this frequently too and when her mouth got near mine.... well.... let me just say that me and her had a scratching, biting, all mighty fight that left both of us with patches of fur and skin bruised and looking disheveled. And you know what? She still loved me after that. Sometimes that's what's needed as bad as that sounds. I mean heck - she's nearing her twenties right now and we STILL fight like that occasionally, but we still go to great lengths to do things for each other.

If that doesn't work what I started doing was put my hand in between the girth and her belly as I was tightening it (removing my hand when I had the loops started so my hand wouldn't get caught) and that helped unruffle her fur, a felt girth also helped her. Now she just pins her ears and looks sour but a stern "Don't you dare!" and she straightens up. She hasn't tried to bite me since that fight. As for the puffing up give it time, girth up in stages. Where I worked we had a horse that did this and after trying to be nice about it my boss gave him one quick smack to the belly and he never did it again (he was doing it to be a brat).

All of this is assuming that there is no health issue. But trust me, I've come to learn with horses our version of smacking, walloping is equivalent to the beating they get in the field on a daily basis. (excluding abuse and definitely not condoning it!)
 

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thnax so much!!! i will try that trick!
hehe you sound like you are great with horses!

yeh i guess... every horse might need a smak once in their life, if they are being a brat lol :)

thanx a ton you guys, i will try the tricks first, and if that aint work.. if i can get anough strenght to do it.. smack her. lol i hope it doesant come to that <3
 

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I would have a vet check her for ulcers and check her back. My friend's horse was like that and people were adamant that it was just attitude because the mare "always" did it. Turns out that the mare has a kissing spine. Ever since that was discovered and some adjustments were made, she's so much better.
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She may have pinched nerve, cracked ribs, ulcers, or who knows what.

It could also be you are irritating in your mannerisms, and voice is pitched too high, or you could be too "busy" in your body movements.

Also, this mare is very old and may have been hurting for a long time now, and this is only way she can get point across.

As for your comment that mare is definitely not in pain?

How do you know that? Has an equine vet seen her, and done diagnostic testing to determine that? X-rays? MRI's? Blood testing?

If those have not been done? Then you have no idea how much pain the mare may or may not be in.

Furthermore, I can assure you that the older you get, the more pain you do feel. Joints are stiff, and achy, old bones hurt more with the cold, and every step can be agony too. Which is what I imagine this mare is going through.

This horse is at an age that I doubt she wants to be ridden much at all, if any. Hitting her is not going to change that.
 

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I would personally have her checked for pain first if you haven't already. Because can you imagine how bad you will feel if you get further down the track and find out she actually was in pain and you were walloping her for trying to show you? and being walloped for being in pain isn't going to do any good, assuming there's a possibility of pain. (Been there, done that, got the T-shirt)

My gelding gets really cranky with the girth and at first I just thought it was him being a jerk, not wanting to be ridden because he was lazy and a toad etc.
Turns out he had a locked shoulder and his wither was out, so in actual fact he was hurting, but I took it as attitude to start with.
I would also agree with the others about checking for ulcers. We know our horses can't turn around and say hey I've got a sore guts, like we can to our friends and family, they have to make their pain known somehow and we know that. She may have been in pain for a long time now, assuming that she hasn't been checked over by a licensed vet/chiro/saddle fitter already.
 

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If it were me, I'd bring the cinch up enough to touch her belly then lower it a little until she gets tired of baring her teeth. It may take 20 times, it may take 50. Patience is often the best teacher. As for the puffing, cinch her just enough that the pad or saddle won't slip, walk her half a dozen step, tighten again, again walk and snug it up. This may go back to someone throwing the saddle on and tightening too fast, or worse yet, someone may have kneed her in the ribs to get her to deflate. Walking is preferable.
 

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This mare is OLD. Old horses are cranky. Make sure it's just her being cranky before you start walloping on her for being disrespectful. Personally I would stick the occasional bareback ride and other than that let her retire and enjoy her golden years. She's earned it.
 

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Thank you guys!
I will make sure it's not pain, then try that sinching trick!
Don't worry, I will not whip her, unless I am forced to :)
 

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Agreed

This mare is OLD. Old horses are cranky. Make sure it's just her being cranky before you start walloping on her for being disrespectful. Personally I would stick the occasional bareback ride and other than that let her retire and enjoy her golden years. She's earned it.
I totally agree :) I ride bareback always :) just, when my friends ride they wanna use the saddle... :/
 
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