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For the past few months I've been driving by a house down the road from me only to see many things that I didn't like.

The house the people moved into was abandoned for 10 years, had no electricity, and was rotting from the inside out. So of course I thought it was wierd. Only to find out that the guy just got out of jail, and is a registered sex offender/pedo. Anyway, that semi-concerns me. At first he had pigs, a month later they were gone. Same with the cows, so I figured he ate them. Which didn't really bother me because I grew up on a farm and it's just a way of life.

Anyway, he stated out with one horse, who looks shaggy, unbrushed and it can stick its head through the guys window. Then he got two more and they live in a pen that is so small they don't have room to run. I doubt they have had any vet attention, there is debres all around, and they have no shelter. I had the last straw when the dog ran out into the road and I almost hit him, so I slowed down to make sure he ran back home and i got a good look at the horses. They had two inches of snow and ice on them and from what I could tell they were really boney.

I only hope they do something soon. I know it's REALLY hard with the economy, so I felt bad about reporting the guy but if you can't afford to feed and shelter them then you shouldn't have one, let alone three.
 

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You definitely did the right thing. They can do their investigation and find out the whole story and do what's best. Good for you for calling!

It's sad that some people just can't have what they want (in this case a horse), but that's just the way it is. No reason the horses have to suffer for his "enjoyment".
 

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C'mon, economy has NOTHING to do with it. If you have no money at all to feed and no place to keep and no desire to actually care (cleaning poops and brushing horses) - don't buy one in first place. And no, I'm not talking about people having horses, who had some unfortunate change in life (like divorce or loss of job) then may be you can go with the cheaper hay or ask friends or even rescue to help - people will always give you a hand, always! This situation is just pure ignorance and you did a right thing!
 

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Anyway, he stated out with one horse, who looks shaggy, unbrushed and it can stick its head through the guys window. Then he got two more and they live in a pen that is so small they don't have room to run. I doubt they have had any vet attention, there is debres all around, and they have no shelter. I had the last straw when the dog ran out into the road and I almost hit him, so I slowed down to make sure he ran back home and i got a good look at the horses. They had two inches of snow and ice on them and from what I could tell they were really boney.
Sorry to be a naysayer - But most of what you have posted is opinion and not facts. Do they look like they need vetrinary attention for any wounds/disease? Do they look sick? If it is snowing, I would HOPE they look shaggy! A small pen is no different to being stalled, except it isn't closed in.

Maybe it would have been worth having a chat to the guy - Oh hey, I noticed you got some horses, I have horses too! So on. You should try not to let any prejudices get in the way of your judgement.

I'd be pretty peeved if someone called AC on me bacsue my horse was in a yard, no shelter, and shaggy. My horses are always out with no shelter and shaggy in winter - And they are all fat and happy.
 

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Well, unless she's blind, I'd say she can see the difference between a well-fed, dirty and fuzzy horse and a starved dirty and fuzzy horse.

Personally if I was in that position, if someone called the SPCA or whatnot on me, even if their investigation revealed nothing, that would be a wake up call to me that maybe I should change a few things, like build a run-in and maybe get the icicles off of my horses belly. If I was really adventurous, I'd but them each a blanket.

I definitely would have done the same thing....probably would have taken the dog home with me too, just to see if the guy actually noticed it was missing or not.
 

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And that^^ is what we call stealing. And you can be prosecuted for it.
 

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Sorry to be a naysayer - But most of what you have posted is opinion and not facts. Do they look like they need vetrinary attention for any wounds/disease? Do they look sick? If it is snowing, I would HOPE they look shaggy! A small pen is no different to being stalled, except it isn't closed in.

Maybe it would have been worth having a chat to the guy - Oh hey, I noticed you got some horses, I have horses too! So on. You should try not to let any prejudices get in the way of your judgement.

I'd be pretty peeved if someone called AC on me bacsue my horse was in a yard, no shelter, and shaggy. My horses are always out with no shelter and shaggy in winter - And they are all fat and happy.
I have to agree with Wildspot here.
I had this happen to me first hand.....

Had an older rescue, that was skin and bones. She was on stall rest for about a month due to different ailments...but once she was well enough she was in a smaller corral which was located along side our driveway...(which happened to be visible from the road). She had already gained around 100lbs at this point, but still had LOADS of weight to go. We honestly thought she was going to die, the first month we had her.
The reason she was in a smaller corral was due to some hock and hoof injuries she had, and she wasn't to do a lot of moving around, but she still needed some excersice, as well as the grass, fresh air...seeing other horses, after being on stall rest for so long.

Well wouldnt you know, after about a week of her outside, we get the SPCA on our property a Lady had complained that our horse looked, boney, was in a small corral, and looked grubby and sad.
Uh...yeah...she was grubby...she only a month ago was a blink away from death!

This lady did not take the time to drive in our place to see all the other horses, fat, happy and healthy. She did not take the time to ask...Why?
I would of happily explained why.
Needless to say the SPCA left within minutes of arriving, and seeing our facility our horses, and what we were doing to aid the recovery of this mare.

So yeah, its best to get all the FACTS, and ask questions before jumping to conculsions!
 

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She did not take the time to ask...Why?
I would of happily explained why.

And this is USUALLY the way the situation goes. It could all be cleared up by just asking a question or two.
 

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Well, if the man wanted his dog back, all he would have to do is come and get it. It would be as simple as knocking on my front door, or even posting flyers to which I would respond. A dog running out into the middle of the road is one that I would consider a stray, and so by picking it up I'd save it from most likely being actually hit by a car. I've picked up lost dogs in and around my neighborhood before, and luckily, even though these dog do not have tags, I knew who they belonged to, and had no problems telling them when they opened their door to by a collar and put a county tag on it. While I had this dog in my custody, it would also give me an opportunity to examine, and possibly document, the condition of the dog. Check for fleas, ticks, general body condition, and whether or not the dog has had water recently. If a man doesn't care for his dog, he probably isn't caring for his horses.

If the dog had gotten out by accident, then I'm sure the man would be relieved that I had so graciously decided to pick it up, rather than leave it to become road kill.
 

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I think the OP did the right think, I actually thought about this and when she reported it, she would have told them what she saw. SPCA/RSPCA know EXACTLY what she sad, so they can choose to make a big deal out of it, or a phone call. As for the dog, I would have watched that it went home and then if it hadn't picked it up and taken it back to the owner and said "Heyy, your dog was on the road and I noticed you had horses, so do I" . So what I'm trying to say is, if the SPCA are not worried about it they won't make a big deal. Its their choice in the end.
 

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I think if any one of you saw the horses then you would do the same. I can tell the difference between a horse that just needs some TLC vs. a horse that needs to get out of the situation it's in.

The horses are in a paddock, too small for them. You need so much room for one horse. The three horses are in one that isn't big enough for one. My horses get winter coats too and they look scuzy but you can't see my horses back and hip bones. You know it must be bad when you can see their hip bones, through the horses winter hair.

They are standing in a pile of debres, like shingles from the roof, wood, and junk. Things they could all get cut on. I think if the vet did come to give them attention then the vet would do something about the situation they're in. Or atleast tell them to clean up around the area. They have been there for a few months.

I also understand when people said "i had a horse that looked skinny once, but she was just old". All three of the horses are skinny, even the foal. So something must be wrong.

They also have no shelter, what so ever, everyday it snows they have snow and ice on them.

And the fence they have is cow/chicken wire, and they are nailed to the trees. The other side of the fence is wire fence but is wrapped around the tree.

What if one of the horses gets out and gets hit?. I live on a major road.
 

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No offence, but I don't want to go to this guys house to ask him questions. He's a level three sex offender and is on the sex offender registry. He went to jail for assulting girls and just got out this summer. Call me "prejudice" or whatever it may be. But I don't feel comfortable being a 5'1 girl going there.

 

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Personally, I would have done the same thing. Yeah, sometimes there's an explanation - but sometimes there's not, and that's when people get defensive and potentially dangerous.

A registered sex offender? I'm not putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation by confronting the guy. Maybe he'd have a good reason, but that's not worth putting myself in danger.

I'd rather let him explain himself to the authorities than to me. I'd be calling, and saying, "This is what I see - skinny horses with no shelter. I don't know the story, but can you check it out?"

The OP did the right thing. When you see things like that you either call the authorities, or try to handle it yourself, and it's ALWAYS better to let a professional do that sort of stuff.

You just never know what people will do when they are confronted - especially people with dangerous/violent histories.
 

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To the OP: And you think that turning him in isn't going to cause any problems? He isn't going to figure out it was you? So this area is loaded with other people living in your area?

I would be more worried about the registered sex offender just living down the road, if there are a lot of people you would have been better off starting a petition with others in your area about getting him out of there. That would resolve the horse issue along with him.
 

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How would he find out it was her? The authorities aren't going to tell him, they legally can't. She doesn't even have to tell THEM her name if she doesn't want to.

That's just silly.
 

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:-(How very sad for those poor horses and the dog. You absolutely did the right thing - those animals can't speak for themselves and the guy is not doing them any favors locking them away if he can't afford to take proper care of them! It makes me so mad, but unfortunately, abuse happens. At least you care - hopefully the authorities will take control and there will be a good outcome to this story!
The information you report is not going to become public knowldege. You don't even have to give your name in SC - I know you are in NY, but these agencies work by the same rules - they cannot divulge any personal info whatsoever - it's the law.
 

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Thanks everybody. I knew some one would understand. Leah & luv, I agree with you girls 100%. When you call in to animal cruelty it's anonymous, or you could give your name and number, in my case, I didn't.

I thought this site would be the last where I would get critisizm for calling in horse neglect.
 

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I also hate to say this but, sex offenders need a place to live too. I think starting a petition would get my name out there and start more problems than it's worth.
 

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And this is USUALLY the way the situation goes. It could all be cleared up by just asking a question or two.
Not around here for sure. If you come and ask a question or two about horses looking starved or sick you sure will be kicked off the property. I know several cases it went like that.

I'm sure the OP can see the difference between horses being indeed starved and sick and horses just hairy and having fun in mud.
 
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