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So i had a lesson not too long ago and the trainer told me that Mya's lope is "very very pretty" and that she wants me to work on slowing down Mya's jog and making her remain consistent at the jog as well,

and i'm having troubles keeping her consistent, i was considering using a fork on her for more leverage and control, any ideas or methods to help me :) anything helps thanks!
 

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When your horse has the required amount of muscle and strength the jog will slow on it's own. It's the same as a dressage horse...the more engaged, the deeper and slower the legs move.

Putting on head equipment rides the wrong end of the horse and builds inverted muscling...not what you want.
 

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When your horse has the required amount of muscle and strength the jog will slow on it's own.
I partially disagree with this. Yes, the horse has to be fit, because a slow gait as required in WP is pretty darn hard for a horse - but you don't see racing thoroughbreds jogging around do you?

There is a deal of training that goes on. What you could do though, which is what I'm doing with a woman I'm giving lessons to, is work lots and lots of circles in the middle. Tiny figure eights, get her moving off your legs. The circles thus collect her, and she has to slow down essentially because of the small circles, and when you feel her drop a gear, let her move out straight.

As soon as you feel her speed up in even just one step, start circling again, changing directions a lot. Eventually, you'll get more consistency, and she'll jog for longer periods of time.

*edit: For this to work properly, you also have to make certain she keeps her shoulder up. If she drops her shoulder, she's not going to get collected, and she's not getting off your leg.
 

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I partially disagree with this. Yes, the horse has to be fit, because a slow gait as required in WP is pretty darn hard for a horse - but you don't see racing thoroughbreds jogging around do you?
I'm not sure what TB's has to do with the discussion. Or what exactly you're disagreeing with. WP jog is hard for a horse to do, thus why I said when the horse in question has the muscular strength the jog will be there.

There is a deal of training that goes on. What you could do though, which is what I'm doing with a woman I'm giving lessons to, is work lots and lots of circles in the middle. Tiny figure eights, get her moving off your legs. The circles thus collect her, and she has to slow down essentially because of the small circles, and when you feel her drop a gear, let her move out straight.
That's what I said. The more engaged the horse moves, the slower and deep the legs move. How is this different then what I said?
 

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Maybe try the stop-rollback-jog off exercises. Get your horse moving in a nice jog, and when she changes tempo (slower of faster) stop quickly, rollback and immediately jog off. This exercise teaches the horse to maintain tempo, and also puts her on her hocks after she jogs off from the rollback. You get the added benefit of working her off your leg, too.
One other suggestion would be to work away from the rail so she does not use it as a crutch. Work circles and diagonal lines off the outside aids to keep the shoulder up. Use the rail as a rest/reward, and she'll see a nice slow collected jog on the rail as a reward!
 

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I have to ask first if you are riding western or english because the way to train a slower jog differs between the disciplines.
 

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Do tons of circles and incline jogs(up/down hills). This helps them get a slower pace and work their muscles. Bring your hands down on each side of the horse and gently pull back on each side stopping when you get the pace you want and continuing again when it's not the right pace. Eventually the horse will get the point and do what you want on his own. Try ground poles as well. Another good one I have found is go from a complete stop to trotting then stop immediately and back about 4-6 steps if the horse trots to fast or uncollected. Keep doing this. After a few times the horse assumes you are going to stop him so he doesn't put energy in it. This works at the canter and lope as well.
 

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Circles do work and work well, but there is another method that I like to use that I am not really sure would work on an english horse because I always ride on loose reins, never contact.

The way that I like to get a horse to move slow and easy or trotting "with their brakes on" is to do this either in circles in the arena, or more commonly the last half a mile or so home. I will urge them up into a little jog and if they start to get fast or if their head comes up, I will ask for the stop and a couple of steps backward. Even if they are traveling nice, I will do this about every 5 or 6 strides. It really helps them to travel "with their brakes on" and makes for a nice easy ride when they figure it out. Plus, it makes their stop just uber hard and responsive. It gets them to shorten their stride and slow their legs down because they are almost waiting for when you will ask them to stop. And because you are backing them up after every stop, it also keeps them working on their hind end.
 

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The way that I like to get a horse to move slow and easy or trotting "with their brakes on"
To do this I just pick a far off place , pick up a nice easy trot and hold it for the next couple of hours. A horse quickly learns to pace themselves and if they are energetic for the first 5 or 10 miles they will just burn themselves up and learn to settle down and conserve.
I try to get my guy out at least every second day for a few hours run and he learned quickly that to move out too strongly is not wise. He will be at it for a long time so he starts out slow.
 
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