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So someone whose horse is not your favorite has not earned your respect?

I find that absurd, but I suppose if you're going to justify that with beliefs, then we ought to just call the discussion off. Anything said can be justified in that way, and there would be no purpose to the Etiquette policy.
...Way to totally misconstrue, like, everything I've said here. This is why such discussions become so long and drawn-out with me. People are all like, "I get it, I get it, and that's your opinion. But I don't like it." But then they say something that shows that have no comprehension of what I think or believe. And this lack of attempting to comprehend it creates a lot of confusion and miscommunication. I can't even begin to say how often people think I'm being rude when I'm certainly not. My boyfriend gets it, thank god, but those who don't take the time to get to understand me don't get it at all.
 

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If I tell an owner their horse is ugly, they have no reason to be hurt because they shouldn't care about the attractiveness of their horse anyway.


That is all a matter of perspective. If you called me fat and I got upset, you could say "Well Shayna, you have no reason to get upset, looks arent everything"

You don't have to have respect for the person, but you can have respect for their feelings or at the very least be courteous.
 

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The purpose of this thread was to discuss the name-calling of other people animals.

And little to nothing else.

I JUST stated what was meant my comment, and you said that you do not give respect to those that have not earned it. In what way does that relate to name-calling another's horse unless you mean to say that someone whose horse you don't find attractive is not worthy of your respect?

Either I've not understood your beliefs wholly, or you are talking yourself in circles.
 

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That is all a matter of perspective. If you called me fat and I got upset, you could say "Well Shayna, you have no reason to get upset, looks arent everything"

You don't have to have respect for the person, but you can have respect for their feelings or at the very least be courteous.
Not the same. My looks are important to me, and although I can accept that I'm unattractive, I'm hurt by being reminded of it. However, the horses I have had and love I did so because of their personalities. Their looks had nothing to do with it. They were of no concern to me whatsoever. They could have been the freaking ugliest things on the face of the planet. Hell, my favourite horse of the barn I often say he's got a fugly head - right to his face - because he does. But I still will walk into his stall and just rub and kiss him and hold his head as he nuzzles me. I don't care how he looks, I care about his personality. So if someone wanted to say, "Hey, that horse is freaking ugly," I'd just be like, "I don't care, he's a total sweetheart."

If I don't respect the person, I won't respect their feelings. Can't have it both ways.
Either I've not understood your beliefs wholly...
Yes. End of.
 

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Well, essentially this discussion has run its course. The rules here are to respect one another's feelings, including the ones that you feel are unwarranted. If you choose to ignore such rules, then your posts will be flagged and you will be removed.

But you're ok with that.

So I think that sums it all up.
 

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Other people opinions of their horse is important to some people. They can accept that their horse may not be conformationally awesome and/or beautiful, but they are hurt by being reminded of it and it being brought up. They still love their horse, but it obviously hurts them.

My horse isn't gorgeous at all. But I still love them. if you insulted my horse, Id still love him (and probably agree with you in some areas) but I would be hurt that you felt he was so ugly you had to take the time to type up and send a response.
 

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Other people opinions of their horse is important to some people. They can accept that their horse may not be conformationally awesome and/or beautiful, but they are hurt by being reminded of it and it being brought up. They still love their horse, but it obviously hurts them.

My horse isn't gorgeous at all. But I still love them. if you insulted my horse, Id still love him (and probably agree with you in some areas) but I would be hurt that you felt he was so ugly you had to take the time to type up and send a response.
But why would they be hurt of being reminded of it? Why do they feel that the value of their horse depends on their aesthetics? Isn't that, well...shallow and pathetic? Because if they're hurt by it, obviously they care, and it's pretty sad when an owner cares how pretty a horse looks.
 

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Why would you be hurt in being reminded by someone that you are not attractive? Your worth is not based on aesthetic value... right?

I take pride in how I care for my horses. I take pride in their muscle tone, the shone on their coats, and strength of their movements. I take pride in their breeding, in their conformation, and in their personalities.

You can take pride in whatever you like. I take pride in my horses' appearances as well as their personalities and performance.

In your own words - not everyone believes the same thing. In that light, not everyone is hurt by the same things.
 

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Other people opinions of their horse is important to some people. They can accept that their horse may not be conformationally awesome and/or beautiful, but they are hurt by being reminded of it and it being brought up. They still love their horse, but it obviously hurts them.

My horse isn't gorgeous at all. But I still love them. if you insulted my horse, Id still love him (and probably agree with you in some areas) but I would be hurt that you felt he was so ugly you had to take the time to type up and send a response.
Who what, Denny? He fits quite well with this description. At least when he's standing still.
 

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But denny is gorgeous when he is moving! And at least he's homely in a really adorable want-to-love-him-and-give-him-cookies way when he's ugly!
 

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Why would you be hurt in being reminded by someone that you are not attractive? Your worth is not based on aesthetic value... right?

I take pride in how I care for my horses. I take pride in their muscle tone, the shone on their coats, and strength of their movements. I take pride in their breeding, in their conformation, and in their personalities.

You can take pride in whatever you like. I take pride in my horses' appearances as well as their personalities and performance.

In your own words - not everyone believes the same thing. In that light, not everyone is hurt by the same things.
Wrong. My worth as a human being, in my opinion, is affected by my looks. I don't think that's true for everyone, but oh well, that's how I feel.

I take pride in how big my boobs are, but that doesn't mean I mind if someone tells me they're not big enough (or are too big). It's things I'm insecure about, things I can't take pride in that I'm hurt by. But my love for my animals - not what I take pride in, which is different - has no basis on their looks. An AQHA person may take pride in their beefy stallion, but I look at them and want to spew my lunch. I may take pride in my OTTB, but an AQHA person may look at his scrawny frame and want to spew their lunch. Personal preference is fine.

I knew what I was saying half way through this post, but then I got distracted and lost my train of thought. So yes. It was present, but now it's become lost in the wilderness.
 

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Out of curiosity, why does it matter so much it someone insults your horse? Why be so defensive? Are you afraid it's true? I would assume not, so what's the big deal? You may not think they need to say it, but it seems the issue is more that they think it, not that they say it.
I have all three of my horses. I have rehabbed them and have seen at them at their worst and their best. When I hear someone down on them, it makes me very upset because of what they have been through. My horses are my best friends. If someone downs on my friend, I get pretty defenseve. No, I am not afraid of the truth, not at all.

Junior, the horse that LOTV was downing on has had a harder life then all three of my horses. The story is in the thread I linked from the original post on this thread (sorry if that was confusing). If someone thinks that my horses are pieces of sh*t, so be it, but that doesnt mean that they have to voice their opinion and be rude while doing it. LOTV would say very rude thing, then when someone when to explain she would just say, "sorry, your post was to long for me to care about."

Like I said, people can think what they thing of me, but when they say something about my horses, that just doesnt fly.
 

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I have all three of my horses. I have rehabbed them and have seen at them at their worst and their best. When I hear someone down on them, it makes me very upset because of what they have been through. My horses are my best friends. If someone downs on my friend, I get pretty defenseve. No, I am not afraid of the truth, not at all.

Junior, the horse that LOTV was downing on has had a harder life then all three of my horses. The story is in the thread I linked from the original post on this thread (sorry if that was confusing). If someone thinks that my horses are pieces of sh*t, so be it, but that doesnt mean that they have to voice their opinion and be rude while doing it. LOTV would say very rude thing, then when someone when to explain she would just say, "sorry, your post was to long for me to care about."

Like I said, people can think what they thing of me, but when they say something about my horses, that just doesnt fly.
Your horses don't have to go through more or less because of what someone says. It doesn't affect them in any way, so why should it affect you? A dog at my mom's has had a really hard life (she is mostly blind because of the maltreatment she received), and she is freaking ugly. I mean ugly as sin. But, ****, do I love that dog, and I'm okay with people telling me she's ugly or whatever. Her eyes are weird-looking because of her blindness, and one girl said that she was kinda freaked out by it. I was just like, yeah, I can understand that, even though I'm not, and I don't think it should be held against the dog personally.

Well, if someone was bitching and whining at you for, like, four paragraphs for a sentence or two you said, would you really feel like reading it all and then responding?
 

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Eventer, it really, honestly is true that people who made rude, nasty comments have their own issues, regardless of what they claim. Don't take anything like that to heart, just pity whatever could have gone wrong in their lives to make them feel so badly about themselves.
 

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Eventer, it really, honestly is true that people who made rude, nasty comments have their own issues, regardless of what they claim. Don't take anything like that to heart, just pity whatever could have gone wrong in their lives to make them feel so badly about themselves.
Wait, I'm genuinely confused. People say that a horse is ugly because they have severe emotional issues due to past trauma? Lolwut? X)
 

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Well, if someone was bitching and whining at you for, like, four paragraphs for a sentence or two you said, would you really feel like reading it all and then responding?
That made me giggle a bit. What I wrote in that thread was Junior's life story, not me nagging about LOTV being down right rude.

And just like Leah, I take pride in my entire horse. And yes, Bear may not be the best looking horse (that is more based on the original post), but does that mean I want someone to point that out? Does that mean I want them to tell me how fugly he is? Does that mean that it's okay for them to tell me how fugly he is? NO.

I am not okay with someone telling me, in a rude way, that my horse doesnt look the best. I am okay with them telling me that he does have a few confo flaws (even though, in Bear's case, it's more then a few) though, in a NICE way. End of story.

Just have to say, im loving how their are six pages and I just started this thread today. "/
 

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That made me giggle a bit. What I wrote in that thread was Junior's life story, not me nagging about LOTV being down right rude.

And just like Leah, I take pride in my entire horse. And yes, Bear may not be the best looking horse (that is more based on the original post), but does that mean I want someone to point that out? Does that mean I want them to tell me how fugly he is? Does that mean that it's okay for them to tell me how fugly he is? NO.

I am not okay with someone telling me, in a rude way, that my horse doesnt look the best. I am okay with them telling me that he does have a few confo flaws (even though, in Bear's case, it's more then a few) though, in a NICE way. End of story.

Just have to say, im loving how their are six pages and I just started this thread today. "/
How would his life story affect whether he's fugly or not? Even if that was the case, I probably wouldn't read it if someone was giving me the life story of a horse in an argument. Or the life story of anything, really.

If you're not okay with it, that's fine, although I don't see the reasoning behind it at all. But there's no need to act like someone who doesn't care is the most heartless, soulless, cruelest sociopath you've ever met who deserves to be burned at the stake. It'd be one thing if they were attacking a horse just because they didn't like the owner when it wasn't warranted and then complained when others did that to them.
 
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