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What height horse do you like for a jumping? Do you find a difference in maneuverability based on height or individual horses athletic ability.
 

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height and size has a lot to do with it imo. i prefer a horse b/t 16 - 16.2, bigger than that and you have issues with maneuverability and agility. smaller can have issues with the bigger jumps. however every horse is different and there are exceptions. most of the huge horses i know though have more hang time over the fences which is less desirable for a jumper where time counts. and one of the horses that is in the hall of fame for eventing was 15.2 and amazing!

the way i see it - bigger isn't always better!
 

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^^ teddy oconnor was like 14.2 !! =]

i like around 16 hh for a jumper
 

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If only the world was full of Teddy Oconnor's!

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking along those lines 15.2-16hh. I grew up jumping arabs anywhere from 14.3-15.2 and they were such athletic lil guys and such a blast to ride. Over the last few years I have mostly ridden TB's and my TB moves like a lincoln town car and is not very athletic. I want to get an OTTB this year late summer or fall and am trying to put together a list of exactly what I am looking for. I guess if I make a list filled with every opposite of what Aidan is I will find what I want ;)

I really like these two but I doubt they will still be around when I am ready to buy.

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I never judge a horse by it's height. I know some 15h horses that can jump the moon and turn on a dime and a lot of 17h slugs who can barely turn and have no scope. I look for temperament and ability. That being said, most of the jumpers I ride are at least 16.2 or taller. I think the smallest I've shown is about 15.2, but we only did the 3'.
 

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Height does have SOME to do with a horse's jumping ability. But I think it has more to do about natural talent and all that jazz.

I can definitely feel a difference in the jumping styles of my 17hh mare and my 14.3 hh mare. the 17hh mare gives you the feeling of a slower ride because of her huge strides and the effort to get over the jumps is less usually. I find her more comfortable to ride over jumps because I am somewhat of a timid jumper and I like the slower, steady feeling.

My 14.3hh horse is speedy. She has to be to get around in the same time as the other horses! She cracks her back on lower jumps than the bigger horses naturally but she is also more catty than the 17hh horse.

it all depends on what you like as a rider.
 

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yes but he was more the exception than the rule!!!!
not really, he was bred specifically to do upper level eventing. there arent that many upper level pony eventers because there arent that many breeders who breed upper level ponies. he was also 1/2 tb, its not like he was a welsh pony or something
 

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not really, he was bred specifically to do upper level eventing. there arent that many upper level pony eventers because there arent that many breeders who breed upper level ponies. he was also 1/2 tb, its not like he was a welsh pony or something
Actually he started his career with his breeder as a hunter and eventually moved to the jumpers. I heard he ended up at the o'connor's because he was too difficult for his breeder to ride and everyone was surprised to see how successful he was with eventing.

I agree with CJ. Why does everyone know who Teddy is? B/C there aren't many ponies out there who are capable of jumping what the big guys can do. Regardless of "lack of breeders" or "people don't give them a chance". Believe me, if ponies had just as much of a chance you'd see more of them out there.


***PS: he was 3/4 TB, 1/4 Shetland, 1/4 Arab.
 

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***PS: he was 3/4 TB, 1/4 Shetland, 1/4 Arab.
I'm bad at math, but your fractions do NOT add up. Do you mean 1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, and 1/4 Shetland?
 

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Actually he started his career with his breeder as a hunter and eventually moved to the jumpers. I heard he ended up at the o'connor's because he was too difficult for his breeder to ride and everyone was surprised to see how successful he was with eventing.

I agree with CJ. Why does everyone know who Teddy is? B/C there aren't many ponies out there who are capable of jumping what the big guys can do. Regardless of "lack of breeders" or "people don't give them a chance". Believe me, if ponies had just as much of a chance you'd see more of them out there.


***PS: he was 3/4 TB, 1/4 Shetland, 1/4 Arab.
his breeder had been trying specifically to breed an upper level pony for 5-10 years or something like that. he was no accident no matter if he started in hunters [all eventers should imo]
 

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^ it's true. The breeder P.Wynn Norman, will tell anyone that he was NOT an accident. His brother, Kevlar, is now standing stud and producing babies much like Teddy.
 

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not really, he was bred specifically to do upper level eventing. there arent that many upper level pony eventers because there arent that many breeders who breed upper level ponies. he was also 1/2 tb, its not like he was a welsh pony or something
my point is that in common standards, you won't see a pony doing the higher levels because not as many of them exist. if you think teddy o'connor was the rule, and not the exception, that's the equivalent of saying he wasn't exceptional which my most standards, he most certainly was!
 

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^ it's true. The breeder P.Wynn Norman, will tell anyone that he was NOT an accident. His brother, Kevlar, is now standing stud and producing babies much like Teddy.

indeed, as secretariat too stood at stud for many many years producing babies much like himself. doesn't mean that there will ever be another horse to the caliber of either secretariat OR teddy o'connor. and THAT is what makes them exceptional. EVEN with teddy's part siblings, that's still a VERY VERY small percentage of horses that are 14.2h or less that can compete at the highest levels, and that was the point of this thread.

what height horse (not breed, or bloodlines, just a generalization) do you prefer for jumpers? i find that most of the best athletic show jumpers are b/t 15.2 - 16.2 and while there are certainly exceptions on either end of the scale, the best of the best *usually* fit in that range.

oh and i know teddy's breeders -- amazing people who have donated to our rescue :)
 

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I feel like I know Teddy a whole lot now ;) I didn't even know he was bred with that intent, I thought he was a total fluke.

I appreciate the comments.
 

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I have a 15hh high ASH x QH and he is notorious for 1.3m jumping fences. Real ones. Made with wire. That said, it would be nice if he was actually rideable. *sigh* maybe one day.

CJ82Sky: There are exceptions to the rule, but they are far more common than you might think!
Size of a jumper is not only about personal preference, but about the temperament of both the rider and the horse, and about the horse's spirit. You're restricting height of the horse to the height of the jumps that YOU jump. Of course people would prefer a 16.2h horse if they want to jump the highest level. But many people do not jump the highest level, and this about what size is comfortable for the rider and why they have chosen this size. For example, my horse is 15.2h. I chose her because she is both maneuverable and scopy, she has a beautiful temperament, and she can go all day jumping only 2'5". It's about what you chose your size for.
 
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