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Chance pulled up lame 2 days ago.. the first today she seemed to just be stiff and a bit off. Yesterday [the third day] I had my BO look at her and she was quite a bit swollen and was given off heat on the inside of her front left {refer to picture} We decided to give her some bute through her feed and I just groomed her then turned her out....

Im guessing my question is would stretches, or massages help??? Stall rest of no.. Im keeping her stall on hold till the end of the month so just curious if i should take advantage of that. I was thinking liniment but I dont want to do anything that could make it worse...

Lol ill be honest I've never delt with a lame horse really... at least not like this. Im use to stiff or sore horses but not having a swollen area..

BTW this is just showing where the swelling is taking place..


Could it be caused by a kick... or something pulled???? Its just such a weird place...
 

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Well, I can't tell anything from that photo.

Post injury...day 3 will be the day of greatest inflammation and pain. After that, on days 4 and 5, inflammation should quickly decrease and then continue to decrease over several days/weeks depending on the extent of the injury. If it doesn't decrease and instead continues to worsen on days 4/5, then you've got a serious problem which would require veterinary attention.

However, since you've now given her bute, there's no way to monitor this injury because you've artificially taken away the inflammation and pain.

I suspect it's nothing of great concern and in a week to 10 days she'll be fine, but without proper pictures/video, we have no way of knowing for sure.

Sooooooooooo, if you are concerned, you should call the vet. And no, if you have to ask what appropriate treatment would be for this situation, then you shouldn't be applying any. Talk to your vet.
 

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I don't think it's really good to give bute without at least consulting a vet.

Hope the horse is okay.
 

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Well heres a video of her first possibly 2nd [not entirly sure cause I didnt come out to teh barn] day of lameness i should have included this first

Part 1
Part 2 [other direction]

NOTE: I wasnt making her go forward cause I KNEW she was off just didnt know how bad.
 

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Are you sure it's not lower in the leg?
 

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If it continues, I'd call a vet. Going to be hard to tell with the bute. The horse might feel better and injure it worse. Hard to say.
 

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well if she was given bute i would wait for a while and give her some more i wouldnt panic
usally lameness only goes on for a week or two ! give it a while and she should be fine:)
 

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Not really a weird place. Your horse just needed to behind another to get kicked. We get a few horses with chest kicks when they are out playing. Some horses just get too close.
 

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90% of lameness in horses are in the hoof. There is not much room for swelling lower in the leg so often the swelling will appear higher in the leg or along the belly. There could be many reasons that she is lame so I would consult a vet or farrier.

I know it's off-topic and you didn't ask for it but don't you think it's kind of lazy on your part to be sitting on a mounting block while your expecting your lame horse to trot circles around you?
 

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I'd consult a vet, even if it's just over the phone which most will do free of charge.

From what it looks like, to me at least, looks like she got kicked. Horses can kick eachother in some strange places (my horse got the inside of her stifle kicked right by her udder).

I would put her on bute, but consult the vet about how much. She'd definitely be on stall rest if she were my horse and it was inflammed
 

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90% of lameness in horses are in the hoof. There is not much room for swelling lower in the leg so often the swelling will appear higher in the leg or along the belly. There could be many reasons that she is lame so I would consult a vet or farrier.

I know it's off-topic and you didn't ask for it but don't you think it's kind of lazy on your part to be sitting on a mounting block while your expecting your lame horse to trot circles around you?
That why I was wondering if it was lower. My vet said the same thing.
 

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Its the horses responsablity to continue trotting around me while I stay and nutral position. She shouldn't change gait or direction till I say. But I was being laid back about it knowing she was off and it was hard for her to trot. But I didnt realize nor wasnt really watching till I saw her head going, checked her over then ended the session and put liniment all over her. If I caught it earlier I wouldnt even have been asking her of anything. She shows no sign at the walk unless your asking for a forward walk.

I didnt really know how to check the hooves but I DID attempt lol I pressed the metal part of the hoof pick all around the frog/heel/sole and there was no reactions. I did it with increasing amount of pressure. There was no heat anywhere either.

Eventerdrew - You and my BO seem to be on the same page. I might give the vet a call and see whats okay and not okay to do. I mean shes out all night now and since shes new to the outside crew shes bound to get kicked.
 

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I don't think your going to get much reaction with a hoof pick and pressure. My vet uses nippers when he checks the hoof.

I'd strongly recommend you talk to your vet.
 

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Its the horses responsablity to continue trotting around me while I stay and nutral position. She shouldn't change gait or direction till I say. But I was being laid back about it knowing she was off and it was hard for her to trot.
That is not a neutral position. That is a lazy, disrespectful, guess what I want, position of limited power and effect.

Her reactions to that position are entirely correct; confusion, unsure, lacking in confidence, looking for guidance...
 

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Her reactions to that position are entirely correct; confusion, unsure, lacking in confidence, looking for guidance...
Probably why he was turning in toward her a couple of times then continued on.
 

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Probably why he was turning in toward her a couple of times then continued on.
I would love for the OP to point us all towards any instructional video/book/clinician where the person longeing is;

a) sitting down
b) turns their back to the horse

AND calls that a neutral position.

I have a hard time even excusing longeing in a halter on a lead line, but sitting down and saying it's the horse's responsibility to decipher such convoluted aids is completely unacceptable.
 

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First of all show some respect to the horse, I don't know if that is you or someone you have work your horse but sitting down is crazy stand up be in the moment with your horse. If you are lazy so are they thats not fair!!!!! Don't ask things of a horse that you yourself wouldn't do. If you won't run don't ask them to. I don't see anything from either video that would say that something is wrong but video is sometimes hard to tell. I agree with the 3rd day is going to be the worst then it should start to get better. I would say that if it doesn't the stall would be a good thing to get him low key, depending on where you live the outdoor conditions may be hard for him to move around on if he is hurting. Ice, snow, really muddy could make it harder. GOOD LUCK.
 

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I have a hard time even excusing longeing in a halter on a lead line, but sitting down and saying it's the horse's responsibility to decipher such convoluted aids is completely unacceptable.
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on not liking longing in a halter. Do you use a bridle? What are the differences? I free longe my draft so I don't use a halter or bridle.

I agree about the 'neutral position'.
 
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