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Latigo rigging + Girth

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I had a saddle fitter out this weekend and she said my saddle fit great EXCEPT my Latigo rigging is too far back… not by much but enough that if the saddle is in the right spot than the girth is on an angle. Is there any girths that can fix that?
picture one shows where it is, second picture is the girth that I’m wondering about and the third picture shows where she said the rigging should be to fit him 100%
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Nothing wrong with your latigo angling forward. Happens all the time. Doesn't create an issue. Will not pull the saddle forward. Photo taken at the end of a trail ride and the saddle hasn't budged from the starting position:
Expert opinion here:

"This idea comes, I believe, from statements made and published by a DVM without any referenced backing, and it has been quoted so often it is now seen as “fact” in some circles. However, this is not a statement coming from saddle and tree makers, nor cowboys who ride for a living. They all understand from practical experience that within a very few strides, unless it is held out of place with a breast collar or crupper, a good fitting saddle will move into the place it is made to fit – right behind the shoulder blade – regardless of rigging position. It is like putting two teaspoons together. When the shapes are the same, they slide into place relative to each other with very minimal movement. Yes, the cinch will end up at the highest point of the horse’s underline, and if the latigos are angled, so what? If the shape of the bar matches the shape of the horse, the insignificant pull due to a slight angle on the latigo is not going to pull it out of place. Like the two spoons nestled together, it takes a fair amount to slide them apart again. It is only if the tree doesn’t fit well (a spoon sitting on a fork or knife) that the rigging can have an effect on where the saddle ends up. But by following this “rule” a lot of people Position their saddle in the wrong place. They look at the position of the cinch relative to the horse and end up putting it too far forward, sitting it right onto the shoulder blades. Then they hold it there with a breast collar so that the muscle is compressed between bone and bar, doing damage to their horse. This “rule” needs to be replaced by a different Principle - Saddle Position is determined by the tree, NOT the rigging."

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I had a saddle fitter out this weekend and she said my saddle fit great EXCEPT my Latigo rigging is too far back… not by much but enough that if the saddle is in the right spot than the girth is on an angle.
Who cares if the girth is at an angle. The saddle is going to sit where it sits. If it fits that way, then it doesn't matter if the girth is at an angle.

Some horse's anatomy will pretty much force that. My horse Dexter has a very well sprung rib cage. There is only one place the girth will sit on him, because his ribs are so anatomically round. Just how it is.

Is there any girths that can fix that?
picture one shows where it is, second picture is the girth that I’m wondering about and the third picture shows where she said the rigging should be to fit him 100%
I tried one of those Shoulder Relief cinches for Dexter. The issue with them (for him) is that the main component of the cinch is a HARD plastic. Even though I chose one that had the soft fleece on it, when I rode him in it for the first time, the fleece just folded over and the plastic of the cinch cut into him. Literally, cut into him. The poor thing is such a good horse that he didn't let on the entire ride. I got home, dismounted, and about cried when I saw what it did to him. I will say the company itself was excellent when I explained what happened and they even allowed me to return it for a refund. So good customer service. Just kind of a poor product if the horse has a very round ribcage.
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Hard to say for sure without seeing the saddle horizontal. But it looks like a 3/4 rigged saddle. Perhaps your saddle fitter isn't familiar with those.

They're my favorite rigging and I won't even ride a full rigged saddle.
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It sets in the same general area as all of ours sit. If it was in the front like you said she wanted it I would find that odd! Lol

Maybe she wants the cinch directly behind the elbow? All of us seem to struggle to figure out the cinch is supposed to set a little further back than we like.
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Thank you everyone! I was really bummed out the idea of selling my saddle.
Your rigging is called an "in skirt" rigging, as the rigging hardware is part of the skirts.

The more I hear about saddle fitters the more I feel like many of them are not worth the $.

Your rigging position is about 7/8s or 3/4, which is perfectly fine, and better than the rigging position the saddle fitter suggested to you. Your picture with the diagram suggests a rigging that's set even farther ahead than what is called "full" rigging position. Saddles that have a rigging in the full position absolutely need to be used with a back cinch (snug!) to help the pressure be distributed across the tree evenly.

A cinch needing to be absolutely straight up and down is a myth.
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I agree with the others the cinch doesn't have to fit exactly in the girth groove.
BUT, we had a mare that was built a bit funny. She was built like a funnel, narrow in the girth groove and really sprung out through the ribs towards here hind quarters.
A 3/4 or 7/8 rigging didn't work on her. The cinch would slide forward into the girth groove forcing the saddle up over the shoulders despite the bars and bar angles being correct.
The only thing that worked for her was a full double rigging.

So if the current rigging isn't pulling the saddle up onto the shoulders by the cinch trying to slide into the girth groove I wouldn't worry about it.

Saddles that have a rigging in the full position absolutely need to be used with a back cinch (snug!) to help the pressure be distributed across the tree evenly.
This! Thank you! I've been trying to beat this into people's heads for years!
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