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So it's been 9 days since I went from full livery to DIY. I've owned Katie 2.5 years. This is my first time going DIY and in a 24/7 turnout situation. For anyone curious that even reads this and doesn't already know I live in London UK. Am 31 yo chick. My first year owning was full livery over £1000 a month. My second until recent was £700 a month - they knocked off £100 at my request for a short while as they were using Katie for clinics as a staff member fell in love with her. But then with covid I couldn't see her at all :< That wasn't including farrier or insurance either. NOW livery is £28 a month. Hay is £5 a rectangular bale. Including insurance and farrier my monthly cost is now at a generous £260 a month. Insane right? But to be fair to myself I was so afraid of being the new owner noob I wanted full livery in case I messed up but... I was taken advantage of. But with this dramatically reduced outgoing I can afford to just relax.

It takes me 4mins to cycle there and have been spending approx 7-8 hours with 2-3 checks a day. Loving it. Not loving the farmer's tan much :p Or the heat... was 36c the other day (96f according to google). Bring on the thunderstorms!

Her sexy full UV flymask that slightly terrified some of the other horses at first :p Don't worry I only put it over headcollar to take a photo!
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To say I'm not afraid is an understatement. I AM very much afraid of messing up. But the support that some of the decade-long DIY owners at this place has been astounding. In one week I've received more moral and hands-on support (ME, not just my horse) that I have in well.. years it feels. They have no real incentive to help me other than they want us to get on and love horses, too. It's a small community. Only about 17 horses max. Because most of them have been here so long its more like a family you can tell. They bicker but I've observed several times in just one week how they all look after one another's horses. If there's a problem they call one another and it's all hands on deck to help resolve it!

Katie squabbled a bit the first time she was put in but that's normal. I put her in the bare paddock with the lami/fattie lot but she tried to kick a horse through the barbed wire and cut her right hind on it. This is the only picture I had from soon after but unfortunately post-salve. It really was just a little thing though. She's had far worse and just sudocrem in the past (by staff).

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That happened soon after arriving. It was healing wonderfully. Kept it clean (just saline rinse) and protected from flies. However Saturday just gone I noticed it was oozing where flies had gotten into a corner of it :< It was tender to touch but she was weight bearing and otherwise fine. In any case the vet is arriving in two hours and to update vaccinations. I am not gonna risk a joint no thank you.

Well another thing that has gotten me a bit upset about previous livery situation and A, who begged and pleaded to buy my horse when I said I was moving. Apparently the farrier had recommended that Katie be shod on her hinds before camp. But they didn't bring it up to me nor did they get it done. Her back feet are so worn down shes walking on pure sole pretty much. She always did wear her hinds down in summer but I've NEVER in my time owning her seen it this bad. The farmer even asked if she was flat footed normally! I noticed on my first walk out with her, even before her injury above became infected, she was stabbing down and not willing to go more than a slow walk, very unlike her. This was a horse used to dragging her feet/toes and stomping down at a trot. Farrier that was there a few days ago said she should be fine to wait until her fronts are due but I don't think so. I'm not happy and already decided I'm not waiting on anyone's opinion anymore. I think she needs shoes right now and so a farrier is coming this afternoon.

A also sent me 10+ pictures of her doing x-country jumping solid fences. Don't get me wrong the photos in themselves are lovely BUT I distinctly remember speaking to her while the vet was there... the vet had said "she can pop jumps as long as she's happy but you don't really want to rag her. Just keep it a leisure thing". This is a horse that back then was considered slightly lame with a weak hind end (but comfortably compensating) and if not resolved with strength training would consider xrays just to get ahead. But they somehow got SO carried away with clinics etc and absence during covid that they escalated it to do doing x-country? I let out a scream and slammed my desk so hard my cat fell off the windowsill in a panic. It riled me enough to bring it up with the YO. I don't even have Katie insured for that and they even had a copy of her insurance! YO "ah I see. Well keep in touch". Whatever. I have tried being nice but its over as far as I'm concerned.

Oh a last thing. They didn't have her passport. I had to leave it on the premises she was mostly kept - the place they rented out. By law when transporting they should have it. But they didn't even bring it with them when they brought her down. I had to go collect it myself.

Oh and one more thing. A has only visited once. A love born of convenience it seems :/ They aren't all bad and they have done some good. I'm sure they care but from where I'm sitting and I'm well aware as an outsider how it looks. The YO even text me to make sure I was taking care of Katie in hot weather. I understand she's worried but they must really think I'm an imbecile. It is what it is now. Katie is here now.

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So vet visit and farrier soon today. Quite a few people love to hand-walk and ride regularly even if its just around the block. Once she's comfortable I'll be taking her out. A lady here rents out her horsebox which is brand new and Katie fits in wonderfully. She also instructs and another owner and I have agreed we'll share and do half hour each with her. She's gonna take us to a polo arena which will be lovely! I explained that its been a while but honestly I used to feel pretty intimidated at the thought of even riding at the other yard. But seeing people work with their horses here on something as simple as just riding 3 meters bareback... everyone here has made me feel at home about working at my own pace.

Will update after vet and farrier ^>^ time to go and get roasted. I didn't sleep at all last night in this humidity!

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So glad you have started your journal.
I for one was getting really worried something had happened with no news or comments from you...

So, is the troublesome gelding still a problem or has he learned some manners from Katie and you??
Is Katie's "friend" who wants to be inseparable still "in-love" or has that worn off?

And....
It hurts to have the rose-colored glasses ripped off as they were and was done to your horse.
I'm glad you now realize how taken advantage you were and your horse was pushed far harder than you were told.
As for "A", not surprised at her diligence in seeing the horse she "loves"... :neutral:
Now knowing what you know went on a bit more I am hoping you not offer the olive branch to them who took such advantage of your gracious heart and horse...:frown_color:
I wonder about that fall she took now too...did she trip or did she crash a fence? :frown_color:
We won't go there though.


Yes to shoes for her to heal and grow some needed foot cause boots isn't going to work for her size hooves nor 24/7 needed to wear.
Once she grows some foot I don't see why you would need to continue hind shoes unless it benefits her.
Yes to the vet for updating vaccinations {do check tetanus} and having that what seems a simple laceration on her hock as it is a joint checked...vets professional opinion gives much needed peace of mind. :smile:

I love the eye mask for flies...can only imagine the other horses response to those huge eyes. :eek:
Now they are used to it and "so what" is their reaction...

It sounds like you have settled in, made some friends and found comfort in having Katie home under your care... :thumbsup: yessss...........
Finding others to ride with who are not judgemental is super and someone with a float/lorry and willing to transport you and she gives lessons... :happydance:
Sweet smelling stuff you have stepped in...
Enjoy your Katie...now and forever!! :cool:
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Thanks for starting the journal, you've had a very harrowing journey into horse ownership but you aren't on your own!

I've kept my horses DIY over the years with good and not so good experiences but what I did find was how helpful and friendly most of the other owners were.

I still keep in touch with some of them after many years.
 

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So glad to see a journal for your new adventures! Was getting worried as well. I think HLG covered it all. Advantage was pushed so far beyond what was agreed I think more than the cat would have fallen off their perch.


I thought that the frog, heels and sole were the main areas of loading, not the outer wall. The sole will callus just like your feet barefoot. So if she is worn down, were her frogs and heels stripped away leaving only sole? Was she trimmed wrong to begin with? Or is her conformation off and she needs shoes?
 

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… I let out a scream and slammed my desk so hard my cat fell off the windowsill in a panic...
The statement about the cat just made me laugh out loud. Probably a defense mechanism, as I wanted to scream! How dare they! And conveniently forgetting to bring the passport along! I get stinking mad on your behalf here across the pond!!!

But, it is over with and you have her in YOUR care :happydance:

And yes, being responsible for your horse is daunting at the beginning. But don't forget: you are not alone there! As you already realized, it is more like a big family that keeps the horses in one place. If you need help, there will be someone happy to help. But you got this!

P.S. Mineral-based (zinc oxide) sunscreen works for humans and horses. Or if you don't care to walk around with a stark-white nose yourself, diaper rash cream with zinc oxide works wonders :biggrin:
 

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UPDATE of vet & farrier visit

Well vet did flexion test as well on her leg to make sure was ok and she was a bit stiff in general trotting up - it was real hard to get her going, unusually so. He didn't even give any antibiotics or antiflams after palpating it real good (ouchy!)... he said he'd rather not just in case something is embedded and we'd rather know sooner rather than later but thinks unlikely. He is actually happy with how the wound has progressed/been looked after considering its been nearly a week AND where it is so just continue as I am with rinsing it and cold compressing. He used hoof testers and she was fine there as well. He did say her feel were very worn and if I was going to take her out then to consider shoeing as she was VERY cautious on the gravel path. Or I could just leave her in the field a month while her wound heals. Vaccinations all done (every 6 months) and off he went. Just gotta keep an eye on it.

Farrier arrived. Turns out he's a farrier enlisted in the army. He was the first farrier to really take his time on each foot. Usually they are in a bit of a rush because of the chain of horses waiting. I was his only client today so maybe that helped. He agreed that her feet were worn quite a bit as well.
@QtrBel usually there is some concavity, only slight - she has a thick, big-fat-wide-juicy frog that took up a lot of space on the ground. The sole was usually around a cm "above" the frog. As in enough you'd have to pick her feet out. But when I got her not only had her frog been worn down but her sole as well. If you closed your eyes and rubbed a hand across her foot it would be like caressing a flat slab of concrete. Is it meant to be like that? It just felt too extreme but maybe my eyes aren't used to it. And her heels are just.. fleshy bulbs. Nothing there and a bit tender. Unfortunately if I want to take her out the ground is hard and the trail is gravel. But most of all she was walking like she was was a ninja trying not to set off a nightingale floor and very resistant to move out. I don't doubt it'd grow out and callous itself - especially as I would be considerate of their condition. But she's already begging to come out and is bored. So will give it a cycle and then take them off and let her feet figure it out. Just feels she's too sensitive right now. I'd like booties but dinner plate feet and £... you know how it is :p In any case I'm gonna judge over the next few days. If she's moving more comfortably then that answer itself and if not I know for next time.
@horselovinguy yeah she's not being harassed anymore. Caught her grooming her boyfriend Toby. But most of the time she is a loner on the outskirts. Noticed some others are the same. She seems very clingy to ME at the moment. She comes when called and when I leave she follows along the fence line giving me the guilt trip. In fact she resists when I go to put her in the field but there hasn't been drama. I think its boredom. She'd quite happily spend all day with me I think. A very "human" horse. I've also been using a long whip and asserting myself (not actually using it ON anyone) and the other horses have given up on me now. Breaks my heart but gotta be safe. I reckon once they are all together in the winter field it'll sort itself. There is a fattie mare I think she'd get on with but isn't allowed in the same one as hers. Maybe not a bad thing she's pretty connected to me either.


Anyway gonna have me a siesta then see her in a few hours. Thank you for your kind words and advice as well everyone. I'd never have been brave enough to do this without you. x
 

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P.S. Mineral-based (zinc oxide) sunscreen works for humans and horses. Or if you don't care to walk around with a stark-white nose yourself, diaper rash cream with zinc oxide works wonders :biggrin:
FYI...they now make a clear zinc oxide cream for those not wanting a white nose..
https://www.amazon.com/Sun-Bum-Unisex-Clear-Zinc/dp/B004YASBDK

And Walmart has it too...if they have it everyone has it. :wink:

It also comes in a spray for ummm...feminine hygiene needs, as a form of "diaper rash" protection but sun protection is sun protection when needed.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Touchles...-Eases-Skin-Irritation-No-Messy-Cre/735079674
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solbar-Z...ted-Transparent-Sunscreen-Cream-4-Oz/46022541

I use this one myself...goes on clear and lets my nose be my nose and not "Rudolph's...shiny red."
I've also used it on my scalp along my part line which keeps me from burning to a crisp in no time when I stupidly forget my hat I never forget the sunscreen.:cool:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ocean-Potion-Suncare-Face-Clear-Zinc-Oxide-SPF-50-1-Oz/712798733

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Yay! Good for you, it sounds like things are unfolding well. A small wound, but that will heal soon enough and most importantly, you are taking charge of Katie! Best to have her looked at sooner rather than later and put your mind at ease. It also sounds like this place has a much more pleasant atmosphere than the old yard. I'd be fuming at them too... how DARE they jump her X-country without asking you! Just wow... I'd be ignoring those texts from the YO. She is NOT trying to look out for Katie, she is trying to make you feel incompetent! Don't even bother to respond, or if you do, let them know how unhappy you are that they put Katie in harm's way without your permission. They're the incompetent ones.

Her hooves will grow out and you can start to take her on little walks and hacks! How fun! So glad you're spending lots of time with her. And you know we're all here to point you in the right direction if you have questions about anything! You can do this, it's really not that hard. Being there and observing just as you're doing is the most important thing.
 

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Glad you are enjoying your journal and Katie. I am also a DIY, thou here in California we call it self board. Been doing it a couple of years now and it works out great. Much more relaxed now and only go out once a day. She is in a paddock 50X50, so I clean her corral, give her her supplements and groom her. She has a large feeder with a net that holds a bale and it generally lasts 3 or 4 days. Thou there is another lady so sometime we switch off and come every other day. The corral is large enough that it is not too bad if I don't clean daily. Since I am in southern California I find a floppy hat works better that the lotion. It doesn't combine with my sweat and get in my eyes. Think they said it will hit 100 on Friday, so I will go early.
 

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I enjoyed your post and as many others have said was so ANGRY at A and the YO - Katie is in a good place now and it sounds like there are some great people there. You will be hauling her out in no time and riding with new friends.
 

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It's 26/27 celsius today (78/80f) @70% humidity. It is bearable and both Katie and I had enough energy in us to go for a longer handwalk. The other days she was resistant to leave but based on her today think that's more to do with the heat than not actually wanting to go explore. It is just so oppressive! So today while only breaking out in a minor sweat we went out properly and she loved it. We only went a mile but she was marching forward comfortably. No resistance. This coming Sunday have my first ride with two others. Just a short hack locally. But I'm planning on riding the lane every other day just to get comfortable. If anything goes wrong its y'know, right there.
Her leg is healing really nicely. I am still amazed at the healing power of the horse, well, Katie at least.

So herd dynamics. It is SO nice to be able to properly observe it day in and day out for ONCE. There is the main herd and then there are the loners. Apparently the loners there have been such for years. These ponies/horses prefer to just stay out of the drama and graze/rest on the edge. Katie looks like she's gonna do the same. It makes me sad. Hopefully that'll change. She has her boyfriend but that relationship seems to be cooling off. But I know it took her a long time to take to any horses at previous yards. Except the first but I think it's because there was just the two of them. Still early days.

My next problem: calories. When I'm there (about 6 hours a day) she gets ad lib hay - easily eats 3/4th a bale in a day and its super dry but well packed (can't weigh this second). Because its funny she gets wet hay, dry hay, hay in a haynet and hay in a bucket. It's so funny watching her switch between all the options. I feel like such a child but its entertaining for us... There is grazing but its got nothing in it. Burned to a crisp. And she HAS lost some weight (have been measuring). She is a good drinker though. To keep some consistency I have been feeding her hard feed as previously - 1 scoop am/pm pasture mix (says oat grain free), 1 scoop molassed chaff and a balancer. I will address the results from the testing I got today but only got the mineral analysis :<

The winter field is 24 acres to be exact. From Oct/Nov farmer puts out hay in the field everyday and we pay a monthly fee. Works out £1.50 a day. But even though its obvious that there is no NUTRITIOUS summer grazing about half the owners have fatties and dont want to pay the "share bill" for the above service and the other half don't want to pay for hay that'll be in the same field as the fatties. I get it. Separating isn't an option. So BOOM my first DIY hump :p The farmer himself said the hay was terrible last year and this year and it has "got nothing in it".

In case anyone is interested the pasture mix is here and the chaff is this one and the balancer here.

I don't want to overload her with sugar obviously. I can't store more than a couple bales at any one time (small rectangular ones). I have been looking at ordering better hay or haylage but they obviously want to only do big deals. Farmer wont let me store anything on his land and I don't have room in my garden for more than a few bales (have dogs they need space too) :p So. This is where I'm at. She has plenty to forage and keep her belly comfy. But I need to get the calories in. I gotta go now but will be back while I think on this. Any advice always welcome!
 

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Well something strange happened this evening. Usually she never wants me to go and hovers by the gate and even walks along the fence as I cycle away. But tonight she was suddenly restless and asked to be returned to the field. As its only two of us in the common "area" (a fenced patch with our storage and hitch posts) I let her graze with only a halter on. After about 1.5 hours munching on hay and her dinner she suddenly was like Enough. I'm full now and need to get back to my family. She wasn't anxious or jiggy. It was a simple request.

Well I put her in the field and she didn't even pause or turn back to look at me. Nothing. I watched her beeline the herd and no one made any drama of it as far as I could see in the dark. It weirded me out and it weirded the other woman there as well as it was so unusual.

Whatever. I pack up and get on my bicycle. Sudden Thunderstorm. LOL. I guess that must have been it. Well I failed my people in my lack of weather preparation. I got soaked through and through. I wanted to cycle fast but couldn't see anything even with my headlight... well I could when the sky lit up. I nearly killed about a dozen panicked squirrels running out into the path in front of me. Crop was left y'see and tree cover on my right. Sheeeesh. Nearly killed myself skidding along. Next time I must remember my bicycle helmet. It's so close to home I got complacent in my rush.

I also wondered if people in Florida and other humid parts have to wash so many bras. I'm getting through like two a day.
 

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It is amazing how tuned in animals are to changes in air pressure etc. that we are not. Lol re. the laundry.

I would not worry about her being a loner. If she is happy with that, then it is all good. People all have different social needs. Surely horses have some similarities. One of kids is an introvert and will go to a group event and hang round the edges and minimally converse with people but in her mind she had the best time and talked a lot. I can integrate more in group things but it drains me and so other days I just need my own space. Better to be chilling at the edges than getting exhausted by the drama.

So glad you are getting to experience all this though. It sounds like it will be good for your recovery from Covid both physically and mentally.
 

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Haha @Kalraii, I would melt in Florida so cant imagine the answer. But here in New England we have 80-90% humidity in the summer and it’s miserable! I’ve been taking three showers a day, pretty much every time I’m out doing chores. My husband does the laundry and he can’t understand how I possibly go through so many changes of clothes a day :eek:
 

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Washing loads of clothes seems to be in many daily routines...
Under garments in this house get washed and hung to dry as the dryer kills elastic...
I also don't mind putting on a clean or rinsed out damp garment cause it dries in minutes once I go out the door and only again soaks ...

As for Katie...
You need to raise the protein level a bit and fat content so Katie not steal, convert her anatomy fat and muscle to feed her vital organs.
She is a big horse and if the hay/pasture is not giving her enough protein then you need to give it to her by means of feed fed.
Developing a hay belly and losing her top line is not something you want to do or get ahead of you, things that happen if hay quality is lacking. Digestibility suffers and :frown_color: will occur.

Calories need to be upped...no idea of what kinds of feed you have at your disposal.
Although she is not working hard she is also a large animal in need of calories ingested...
Easiest for you to add calories is through higher fat content foods...oil like cooking oil poured over her food.
Coconut meal ground, here one of those is called Cool Stance but not sure what is near you...
Canola oil is healthy with more Omega 6 than 3's...
Vegetable oil would be my next choice...
The oil that carries the most calories although many will freak is corn oil...corn is dense calories but harder on the horses digestion.
I do recognize though that for generations people fed corn and oats successfully and their horses were not lame, foundering, developing other health issues...but they were also not fed improved hay either nor did they eat non-stop..
Read up on oats as different processing can offer beneficial properties to our horses in moderation fed. Be informed of what they offer versus the downfall concerning Katie's needs specific.
I don't know what is local and easy accessibility for you being no car is a issue...so thinking what would be in a food store easily carried and not super costly.

Go easy on the starch and sugar number cause when combined it is your NSC and its high...I read your bag labels...
Being Katie is in the family of draft horses size and breeding she could be predisposed to some of the issues specific to those horses.
Dr. Beth Valentine is a recognized leader in draft horse nutrition and their care.
This is a resource for many with drafts collecting many resources of information under one heading, with many subsections..
https://www.ruralheritage.com/new_rh_website/resources/horse_health/horse_health_main.shtml
The entire site is a great read and covers much material...maybe their you will find some ideas other to assist you.
That's all I've got at the moment.
QtrBel might have insight as she has drafts and deals with feeding issues herself keeping them round, happy and safe nutritionally.
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I am so glad am not alone in washing so many clothes ahah. I don't mind working out but there is something just ICK about doing nothing other than sitting there and sweating AS IF you just realised you went to the bathroom and hit call by accident ione morning and now someone has a voicemail of your business (true story :<). Like surely that kind of sweating should be reserved for working out and during crisis? Not just sitting on a bench?

Well I no longer need to worry about heat and sweating. Because we've exchanged heat for rain. So another type of wet. :icon_rolleyes:

In my spare time I've been reading about Katie's nutrition. Thanks @horselovinguy for that resource. I finally know what to look for in labels now and yeah... the current feed is RIDICULOUSLY high in sugar O,O. Have already purchased some higher protein chaff and mix, with oil too. Working out calories as well! It's a start.

Yesterday had some drama. A (lady that wanted to buy Katie) dropped by short-notice with her parent. It was fine she just gave Katie some carrots and a petting. I walked Katie down the lane to their car and saw them off. Right behind me was Gina (fake name) walking her two geldings in-hand as well. We decided that we'd cross the road and let them graze on the green in front of the garden centre.

I was pretty shocked when she unclipped one of the geldings despite us being next to a busy 4 way roundabout. This gelding ran over to do this:

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My face while glancing at the cars zooming by just a few meters away: :blueunicorn::eek_color::shock:

Well Gina assured me that she's been doing this well over a decade and her gelding Charlie was usually very lazy and herd-bound to her other gelding Sam (who she did NOT let off). She spoke too soon. About 5 mins later Charlie was cantering around in a panic. Our suspicion later is that while itching himself with his man-bits out he got stung or sucked something up. Because he was very agitated about his back end. We couldn't see anything in the moment. She managed to catch him to clip a lead rope but she had to let go of Sam - who trotted off in the other direction back to graze! So there I am standing holding Katie who is snorting and wondering what the PAPER do I do?!?!?

Charlie then rears and strikes Gina directly on the chest. I hear his hooves make contact. He is like an overgrown toddler and continued to just rear and run to her. It was insane. Because Gina, who is in her late 40s, has already had spinal issues thanks to a life of horses and she fell like you'd expect a very elderly person or someone with a neuro issue. She didn't catch herself and landed flat on her back, head smacking the grass. But Charlie reared again and I go to run over because I'm sure he's gonna land with both feet directly on her unprotected stomach. He lurches to the side. I don't know if because of me or Katie or he didn't want to stand on his mum. But he was so clingy to her even as she managed to get to her feet he continued his antics.

She was very lucky because he just clipped her chest when he'd come down. Bruised definitely but superficial at least. The fall on her back was worse and a couple of us have insisted she get checked out. Going back to what happened. This poor adrenaline fuelled woman managed to get control of her horse.. sort of. I caught Sam who was a very good boy for me and Katie who was snorting and strong also behaved herself. I reassured them as best I could while keeping them in line and listening. The walk across the roundabout was dicey as was the quarter mile down the lane. There was a little girl sitting in the middle of the lane no older than 3. And there was Gina skidding along barely able to stop Charlie from taking off home. The poor gelding was in absolute distress about whatever it was bothering him. He was clearly trying so hard to behave.

It took so much strength though to hold Katie and Sam back from running after Charlie. They were very good but Katie, mostly, was wound up. They managed to both stay at a fast walk thank goodness. If just one of them wanted to take off they could have easily. Once home Charlie calmed down a lot but was still agitated. We think maybe an overreaction on his part but even when ridden if upset he just bolts home. So the fact she managed to make it down the lane in one piece is an achievement. Fortunately come the evening everyone is OK.

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Today nothing too exciting. Lots of drizzle and poo picking. We went for a walk down the lane - this time the way towards the motorway bridge. To get to the 4 acre field where we can ride we have to cross this:

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It is my opinion that the fencing isn't high enough. If I was astride my entire body would be above the fence pretty much and it would take one spin'n'fling. So I've decided this is one bridge I will NEVER ride across. I don't mind heights - I've done plenty rock climbing out in the country - but nope. Nope. Nope. Katie didn't like it AT all. We have walked over the bridge once but in company. She was super prancy first time over. On the way back with lots of pep talk about how brave she is by me and the other she was really good. But today, alone, I didn't get that far because of a lack of time. It was getting dark. But thought you'd like to see how insane this bridge is in my opinion. But what bothers us both is the SOUND. It is SO LOUD. I wonder if having ear muffs would help at all? I mean I want to cover my own ears it's that loud it must be awful for her.

Well I walked back and let her eat grass. That's when I met Liz (fake name). She's an older retired lady with two horrible mares. Without even so much as a hello she began to berate and insult me about letting Katie graze on the lane. Basically I was directly on the line that toed the divide between bridleway and national trust park. Bearing mind NO ONE had told me this but it is forbidden to basically step foot or even look at it with a horse in-hand. But this crazy lady just went mental. I quickly realised she might actually be on the spectrum as had many patients that were quite strange and abrupt. You can't really describe it but if you've worked around those that suffer with mental impairment you can pick it up relatively quick. So I caught my tongue and said thanks for letting me know. But she went on and on and on. She then began insulting and berating me for the tone in which I said thanks lol. It's OK. Everyone warned me about Liz and said she is a horrible woman and not to take anything she says to heart. She's the definition of a witch was one comparison given me and "like horse like owner" >.< Well.. its OK. I guess they weren't exactly wrong. An extremely reactive and confrontational woman. Just like her horses o,.o I am surprised that everything I was warned about rang true. I just sharply told her "its ok, I heard you the first time and I wont graze her there again" and she began muttering under her breath, mimicking me like you'd expect of an unruly child >.<

I'd put 4 plain salt licks out in the field as I'd purchased them before I'd decided to put salt in Katie's feed and couldn't return them - I was told to first post it on the livery facebook ahead of time to check everyone was ok with it. I checked with the farmer too. I spaced them out and away from corners and quite a few of the horses love them. Some needed it as well given the hot weather and where some owners haven't made an appearance in days. Liz made a huge deal about them unsurprisingly and spoke on behalf of everyone else (who I'd gotten the all-clear ahead of time) that they were not needed. I didn't know Liz wasn't on the livery facebook group. I've asked everyone else a second time and some have even offered to pay me some of the cost of the licks. I've been told just not to mind her so...will see how things go. I don't want to rock the boat too much over salt licks.

On the other hand I did spend over 2 hours poo picking the field. There are only 3 of us that do it (and certainly not Liz) and 13 acres and a herd of 15 on one side its a lot of work. But I think it's so important that they have clean areas they can graze and sleep + worms y'know? I didn't mind I just got lost in thought and was watching the herd. It was kinda cool as the spot I cleared them came over to graze. We had rain and the grass already returning to green!

I gave Katie her dinner and finally it was calm again. I've begun putting half her feed in a treat ball and letting her off in the common area to bash it around for enrichment

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But am loving all this. I still in the back of my mind worry if I have what it takes... Am waiting on a few more bits to arrive. Am meant to ride tomorrow but one cancelled and its going to chuck it down. I ride in all weather will see if Gina does and if she's even well enough with all her bruises! I ordered a mounting block that hasn't come yet. The other ladies get on by climbing a wobbly gate while their horse has a bucket of feed in front of them ahaha. Their horses are quite a bit shorter as well though so not sure you'll catch me sliding on a wet gate trying to get on! Night everyone and anyone that read this word vomit! ^>^
 

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PS: LOOK AT THOSE FRECKLES! I had a lady walking her dog who claims to have spent over 50 years rescuing and training horses in Asia (a very British woman) and ran a rehab centre that had about 60 horses at any one time. She said she reckons Katie's bloodline from way way way back must have a hint of Arabian or Khalan? The last one I couldn't quite remember the word and failed at googling anything about it. Something about the shape of her eyes and ears. She didn't think Katie was fleabitten because the freckles are mostly on her face with only a few here and there on her body which is true. Some of the freckles are black and most are brown. She said it's more a colour in its own right. I don't know but this lady spoke of such knowledge and with such confidence, commenting on her conformation and shoes basically firing back what the vets and farrier had been saying the day prior. I thought it was so cool to stumble across someone like this out in the wild. Maybe I'll see her again.
 
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