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I don't like that women. its not because shes a parelli, i have no problem with parelli. But theres some people that i just dont like orTRUST, and just by seeing her around horses and in videos and stuff she is not a person i would get along with, she seems almost 'sneaky' to me. That horse could have been handled better and she knows it, she just thinks to much of herself to admit she made a few mistake, which we ALL do, were only human. It just bugs me that she thinks to much of herself to kadmit she let her temper get the best of her. If she had admitted 'i have made a mistake, i am working on handling it better and fixing it'. then maybe i would have a teensy piece of respect for her.
 

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They can't even get their stories straight about the horse.

Of course, everyone wants to claim the horse was a "rescue" with a terrible past that they have "saved" him from. Typical Parelli PR nonsense.

I've watched the video (including the "prequel" where the owner was working with him) several times and have yet to see the horse exhibiting dangerous behavior.

What I did see was a crazy blonde woman lose her temper, whack a half-blind horse on both sides of the face with the rope. I saw Linda Parelli swinging the metal clip hard enough for that to whack the horse in the face, and heard her telling the owner that it was a "good whack" when he did the same. Eventually, her totally ineffective method of "training" led to her smacking the horse in the face with her hands.

And still, she stands by her actions. . .and still, her followers continue to guzzle the Kool-Aid, write the checks, and think that the P's are the best thing to ever happen to horses. . .:roll:
 

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Yeah, that was "looking for excuses" video and comment. I think it would be much smarter of her just ignore the rumor and act like nothing happened. I had fun going through some comments though.... While generally PR is a good thing, I'm not very positive this type of PR will make people to buy Parelli's stuff.
 

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I had no idea the horse was half blind till I read the blog thing. But know that.. makes what she did 100x worse IMO! Ive seen the whole video because I use to have th red level 1... In the end the horse WAS relaxed and such... but the poor thing probably went through a mental breakdown before getting there..

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I was willing to go with Kevin (what he posted in the other thread) that the horse was dangerous, etc until I saw the video of the owner working with the horse prior to LP getting her paws on it.

This poor horse was not dangerous at all. At least not until LP touched it.

The owner had much better timing than LP had, that is for sure. He would shake the snot out of the rope and when the horse backed up he would stop and stand until the horse moved towards him again and he would start over.

I think that is how the exercise is supposed to work, right?
 

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Let's think about what really happened here. The owner brought a horse that he couldn't handle to a respected clinicians wife. The clinicians wife did her thing with the horse and helped the owner work on the horse as well. In the end the owner was happy, the horse was easier to handle and had not been injured or abused and is now a nice riding horse for the owner. I don't know what better outcome you could ask for. Even if you don't agree with what happened in the video (I think alot of you are not watching objectively) the outcome was good for the participants involved. I am confident that now the owner doesn't need to whack his horse with a metal clip when backing his horse so whatever degree of discomfort the horse experienced has been over for years. After watching the other two videos that come before and after the original video I am even further convinced that what happened was fine. I wouldn't have done it quite like she did but it worked and now all parties are happy. If you don't like it don't do it but more right happened there than wrong.

P.S. I still don't like Parelli but I hate to see someone unfairly demonized. Critique all you want but do so with your emotions under control.
 

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P.S. I still don't like Parelli but I hate to see someone unfairly demonized. Critique all you want but do so with your emotions under control.
No emotions on the subject here. I was willing to believe your side (though I did not really agree with you, I was willing to believe you) until I saw the video of the owner handling the horse.

And what makes it even more wrong is crap LP is spewing now about how dangerous the horse was. The horse was not dangerous. Did you see the owner handling the horse video, Kevin?
 

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Let's think about what really happened here. The owner brought a horse that he couldn't handle to a respected clinicians wife. The clinicians wife did her thing with the horse and helped the owner work on the horse as well. In the end the owner was happy, the horse was easier to handle and had not been injured or abused and is now a nice riding horse for the owner. I don't know what better outcome you could ask for. Even if you don't agree with what happened in the video (I think alot of you are not watching objectively) the outcome was good for the participants involved. I am confident that now the owner doesn't need to whack his horse with a metal clip when backing his horse so whatever degree of discomfort the horse experienced has been over for years. After watching the other two videos that come before and after the original video I am even further convinced that what happened was fine. I wouldn't have done it quite like she did but it worked and now all parties are happy. If you don't like it don't do it but more right happened there than wrong.

P.S. I still don't like Parelli but I hate to see someone unfairly demonized. Critique all you want but do so with your emotions under control.
I think respected clinicians wife is a really good statement. :lol:

Just wondering how that training made a nice riding horse for the owner? No sarcasm here, but what she does in no way seems to help with riding.

P.S. No emotions at all, btw. I still think trainer loosing the temper is the biggest no-no for MY horses.
 

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When I said "nice riding horse" I was going by what the owner said but everything we do with horses helps with riding to some degree. I think not getting stepped on when the horse spooks at a bag blowing across the yard would definately improve my riding.

I would really like to see the entire video and see what happened that Linda needed to take over from the owner. Something must have changed in the horses behavior but that horse would most certainly step on you if you were in the way.

I also don't see where LP lost her temper. She used alot of force and she was concentrating but I don't think she lost her temper at all.
 

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I wish I still had the Level one pack.. I think all the horse did was invade the owners space and linda jumped in.. im not 100% sure it was last year or so that I watched it.
 

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Here is the owner handling the horse before
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*Shrugs* I didn't even know it was LP when I first saw the clip. I still thought it was a demonstarte of how NOT to acheive your objective (Actually, I didn't get the objective at all).

I don't disagree with the level of force. I do disagree with the way it was done - Flapping your arms aroubnd like a chicken and snapping a horse in the jaw with the metal clip on the lead is just not any way I would handle a situation, and I would not allow anyone else to handle my horses like that either.

I don't think the owner was that much better than than LP - He was giving more release, which was great, though the timing was off - but there were no 'phases', to quote Parelli. The horse took a step forward and SNAP gets the clip in the jaw. You ALWAYS need to start with the cue you want to end with - i.e. the smallest. Whisper, talk, yell and all that. Going straight to the strongest cue is only ok when you are physically in danger, and I didn't see that once through either of the videos.
 

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]If you look at her body language as the video progresses, there is no calm, she becomes more and more tense and even frantic. Her muscles tighten and her movements become jerky, all signs of mental distress(psych student here lol).
 
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