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I personally think he has a whole lot of hoof there that he really doesn't need, in particular, SUPER high heels. However, I really don't know a ton about hooves so I could be wrong...
I'm sure someone else who knows what they're talking about will come along and help you out more than I could. Haha
 

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I was thinking the same thing! From what I've read (mostly from RiosDad posts) the heel should be pretty short and the frog should be touching the ground. It kind of looks like your horses is sunken in?
 

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That trim is only a week old. I think the whole hoof seems really long. My friend took her two horses to an vet specializing in equine lameness and he told her that both her horses had uneven trims, one horses frog is dying because he can't make contact with it because of his lousy trim and he said both of her horse had entirely to long of hooves. I use the same farrier. Now I am really worried. I have always thought he left them to long, but now I'm worried that he is causing him to have problems. Major has also had some soreness issues in the past few months that I have never known him to have.

I should also mention that the last two times the farrier trimmed Majors feet, he didn't touch his back feet. Said they didn't need it. He didn't even rasp them.
 

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Well I guess its good that you're not insulted by our amateur assessments then, haha.

I would look in to getting a new farrier? Long toes/heels can cause all sorts of leg problems, in addition to killing off his frog. I don't know if it comes back once its dead....that would be something I would look in to!
 

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I was thinking the same thing! From what I've read (mostly from RiosDad posts) the heel should be pretty short and the frog should be touching the ground. It kind of looks like your horses is sunken in?


My friends horses frog is dying because it isn't touching the ground. We use the same farrier for Major and I am scared that is what is happening to him.
 

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Well I guess its good that you're not insulted by our amateur assessments then, haha.

I would look in to getting a new farrier? Long toes/heels can cause all sorts of leg problems, in addition to killing off his frog. I don't know if it comes back once its dead....that would be something I would look in to!

Read more: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-hea...-trim-what-do-55531/#post639563#ixzz0QFUQ2lbN
All opinions are welcome. I want to know what you see. If ya have to, run out and look at your own horses trim and tell me what you see different with mine :lol:. I am really worried about the health of his feet now. I have busted my but, made sacrifices to make sure he has his feet done on time all the time. Now I find out that the farrier I have been using may be ruining his feet. I am searching for a new farrier, but for now, I want to know what you guys think of his hooves and wether or not I should be riding. His feet were done last week.
 

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I agree with everyone and say those feet are too long. Thats what my horses feet look like after 3 months without a trim. And even if the back feet look ok, he should still nip the surface. Its impossible that a horse doesn't grow hoof in 6-8 weeks! The way the science of the frog was explained to me was by a really old farrier. It makes sense so ill share it (in way shorter form...he was 90 and talked to me about horses for atleast 3 hours)

In his opinion, a horse has 5 hearts. The one in the chest and each frog on each foot. A horses entire anatomy is set up to be on the move almost constantly. Each step a horse takes sends old blood up and syphons new blood down. This is what keeps the blood circulating in the hooves and lower limbs. If the frog cannot make contact with the ground, blood pools in the area and causes the frog to die. Without blood circulation in the feet, the hoof will fail.
Sounds pretty reasonable to me!
 

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Well I'm about a 10 minute drive from my horse, but I can tell you what his feet look like right now, and they're at 8 weeks and being trimmed tomorrow.

They're definitely not as long/stacked as your horses, the heels are flared out and his toes are really just starting to get long in the front. His heels are probably only 2 inches, maybe. I've never been good with measurements, but his are at least an inch shorter than your guys.
 

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That sounds reasonable to me too, but scary too. What have I done to my horse :-(? I have my horse done every 6 weeks, that means his back feet haven't been touched in twelve weeks. I am very worried about his frogs also. This same farrier told me something was wrong with my horses knees and he needed to be done every six weeks instead of 8 to insure that he stays sound. Do you guys see anything with his knees?
 

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Personally, I wouldn't be riding him, but that's just me if it were Lacey. If it makes you feel any better, Lacey's hooves looked like this 9 months ago:



And 6 months later, after I got a new really excellent farrier they look like this:



So don't worry too much, it'll be reversible with a little work. *hugs*
 

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His knees look normal to me. If anything, the long hooves are making it awkward to step and rough on his joints. If a vet hasn't backed up your farriers diagnosis, I would call it crap and forget about it. I will definitely get pics of Ice's feet tomorrow pre and post trim for comparison :)
 

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Thanks Wallaby. Youre hooves look way better. I really hope Majors can be fixed also. It really upsets me that I'm working hard and trying to give my horse the best care possible only to find out I have been paying someone to destroy his very foundation.
 

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Yeah and dont worry about what *you* did to your horse. You did your best. When I got nico, he hadn't been touched by a farrier (or anyone else for that matter) for over a year. His feet were pretty long but you wouldn't know it now. Your boy will be just fine. Just get yourself a decent farrier who is willing to actually do his job and get the feet looking better.

ps I looked all over for a picture of nicos feet and realized every shot I have of him is an 'action' shot!
 

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justsambam- no vet has ever backed up what the farrier said about his knees. I just took his word for it. I also took it for granted that his feet were being taken care of since I was forking out the money every six weeks. Stupid me.
 

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I wouldn't beat yourself up for it. We all do the best we can with the knowledge we're given! Its a good thing that you sense that something was wrong and are trying to correct it, and thats all you can ever do.
 

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corinowalk- I'm sorry you and your horse had to go through it, but it does make me feel better that others have made that mistake and their horses have come out just fine. I do feel guilty though, especially since he has gotten sore several times this last couple of months...it should have been a red flag, but I thought he was just kicking up his hills a little to much in the pasture (we just opened it). That should have been a red flag to me.
 

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I wouldn't beat yourself up for it. We all do the best we can with the knowledge we're given! Its a good thing that you sense that something was wrong and are trying to correct it, and thats all you can ever do.


Thanks hun, I appreciate the support from all of you. I wish I had looked harder sooner though. I am ashamed to admit that this guy has shod my horse at least 4 times.....six weeks a part :-(.
 

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Definately find yourself a new farrier. This one is not doing much for your horse. Your horses feet are not in terrible shape and I wouldn't be scared to ride him moderately. Get the new farrier out as soon as you can and get those feet done correctly.
 

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