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I was going for a head banging emoticon, but this will have to do.

Is there ANY difference between furizone, furazone and nitrofurazone??? Is it all the same dang product with different spelling??? Is it SAFE?

I just bought some and used it on Zierra. At the moment, I only have Corona, Fiebings Aloe Vera and Blu-Kote. None of these prevent proud flesh. I went to the store and I passed over Wonder Dust after hearing many websites claim it actually PROMOTES proud flesh. So I grabbed nitrofurazone ointment (0.2% in a water-soluble base). I slathered her leg with that and re-bandaged it.

AM I WRONG? I am SO frustrated. What on EARTH are we supposed to use? Now I read that nitrofurazone causes cancer and it also destroys good flesh and shouldn't be used unless I SEE proud flesh. Someone else said it PROMOTES proud flesh.

*sobs*

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. Does ANYTHING prevent proud flesh? Or do we just wait for it to come and keep cutting/scrapping it back as it does??? HELP. These things, literally, "do not happen" to me. I dealt with 50 stitches into the chest of Zierra's dam once, about seven years ago, and be damned if I've dealt with any serious cuts since.

Any input would be wonderful, because I am panicking. I do not think the wound looks like it should. Am I wrong? Am I right? What do I need to be doing?

DAY ONE



DAY TWO
(after washing, putting Corona Ointment on and vet wrapping)



DAY THREE (repeat procedure from day two)





DAY FOUR (after taking these pics, I applied the nitrofurazone ointment and re-bandaged her)




Should I leave her bandaged?
Un-bandaged?
Nitrofurazone?
Another ointment?

Two trainers/coaches now have told me to use nitrofurazone, but one told me to stop bandaging while the other said keep bandaging.

SHE IS NOT IN A BARN. She is in an isolated round pen. I do not have a barn.
 

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Sorry to hear about the cut. :-( I don't think the bandage will stay on. I had similar cut on Kiara and it certainly didn't work for me. I used Furazone (it was popular in my old barn because of the price :) ) and Corona before. They are OK, but very sticky and smelty IMO. I switched to this one Aloe Vera Base Vet Cream Horseman's Dream (Equine - Horse Health Care - Wound Care) several years back and used it when Kiara had similar cut on her led, on her nose, on Jemma's leg just above the hoof, and Jemma's head. My neighbor also switched from furazone to this one after her OTTB had a bad cut on back and she borrowed my cream. :)

I usually clean the cut with the warm water, dry it out with the napkin and then put the cream on and leave it like that. My horses are also 24/7 out.
 

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I think I would stop bandaging and stop scrubbing. I would let it start healing over (scabbing). I like the spray topicals/antibiotics like the farnam wound kote a little bit better for yucky booboos. Good luck.
 

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I've used Wonder Dust for proudflesh without a problem. But some people SWEAR by meat tenderizer, I think. You might want to look that up.

I would also use just a triple antibiotic ointment and leave it uncovered so it can start to dry out.

I also like AluShield for wounds like that.
http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=1&pf_id=16549
 

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Ok, so essentially I'm keeping it TOO clean, am I right? I should just slap some glop on and leave it alone?

I'm overly paranoid. I've seen what proud flesh can do (Jynx has an ugly lump on her back leg from a proud flesh incident) and it terrifies me. I'm so worried of doing something wrong :-(

In better news, after three days of penecillion and wrapping, the leg itself is perfectly normal again - no heat, no swelling and no lameness.

So just take the bandages off and leave a topical spray or ointment on it?
 

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One of my horses had a really bad scrape, it happened out in the pasture during a storm, we never figured out what he did it on but something stabbed him and then ripped it in a perfect right angle. Since it happened during the night, we missed our window for stitches so I was furazoning and using the spray topical. The spray was twice a day I think. Anyway, I was scrubbing it with a betadine solution and hosing it daily and I got in trouble with the vet ... it bothered me that he'd get sawdust in it or little pieces of dirt but in order for it to heal I needed to allow it to scab over. So yes, let it scab.... :)
 

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You must use Equilade. I used it for 3 weeks, rebandaging every other day. Piper's wounds are COMPLETELY healed and they looked like this. The first pic was taken the day after (before I put on the Equilade). The next is the day after I put on the Equilade and the last picture is last week. You can't even tell it happened now. Sorry I couldn't get the frozen mud off her for the last pic. It was after we rode.
 

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Yes, all three are the same and we now know that furazone slows wound healing and may promote proud flesh. The best recommendation for a topical wound product is a plain triple antibiotic ointment. Then if you start seeing proud flesh forming talk to your vet about adding in a steroid to stop the proud flesh from forming in the first place. Wonder Dust and the other caustic products on the market should ONLY be used directly on proud flesh that has already formed as they are not picky and will damage healthy healing flesh as well as proud flesh.
 

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No one is really sure what causes proud flesh. It is essentially "exuberant granulation tissue" (which is that bubble gum pink stage that your mare is at right now). There is no predicting when a wound will grow proud flesh and when it won't and some individuals seem more prone to it.

Since there is so much variation from wound to wound and horse to horse, there is no proven way to predictably prevent it. Her wound looks like it is healing really really well and I agree that I would mostly leave it alone at this point. Maybe gentle washing if it becomes dirty with feces and such. A good rule of thumb is if you wouldn't slather it on your own wounds, don't put it on your horse!
 

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I would honestly just leave it alone now. Let it scab and let it heal. Keep an eye on it for any indication of a problem (running, oozing, funky colors, swelling, etc), but other than that, just let nature take it's course.
 

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I've doctored much nastier cuts then she has now. There is literally nothing a vet could do at this point that I can't. The swelling has already disappeared and the dressing is being changed daily, to keep a close eye on the wound. We'll be starting with an anti-fungal spray by tomorrow.
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I actually have a cream I got from my vet when dealing with a wound very similar that helps prevent proud flesh. I will try to locate it tonight and see what it is called. It was part of the reason I originally suggested a vet since wounds like this are tricky to heal. But..... You knew better.
 

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I was given a spray from my vet called Derma Gel and it has been amazing. He told me it would help regrow healthy skin more rapidly and promote regrowth of hair in the original colour. I must say I was soooo impressed, and I keep it on hand now. Maybe ask about it? It comes in a spray or a gel, but I prefer the spray as you don't have to get your fingers in the wound, and it forms a very thin barrier over the wound.
 

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I will second the triple antibiotic ointment!

Our family uses it on ourselves and the horses and I swear it heals anything and everything. It is also inexpensive and available at just about any store. I love the stuff! I use it on any horse cut or abrasion and have never had a problem with proud flesh.

If a wound is horrible, I will wash and wrap, but mostly I just slather it on and then let it scab over or get dirty if it wants to. The next day I will just wipe it off and put more on top. Great stuff for horses and humans! :lol:
 

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This is what I would do in my opinion..

Wash it twice a day and scrub with a wash cloth. Wrap it only at night right after washing it, and put a small amount of fura-zone onto it. The vet I do my job shadows with still recommends it.

I'll post a pic of my horses wound.. do I win? xD

 

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^ And to add to the above post, my horse doesn't have a scar from that. I used furazone twice a day, everyday for a few months. I also think that because the wound is on the horses leg you should always keep it cleaner because it's closer to the ground and manure/dirt can get into it easier and prevent healing.
 

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I actually have a cream I got from my vet when dealing with a wound very similar that helps prevent proud flesh. I will try to locate it tonight and see what it is called. It was part of the reason I originally suggested a vet since wounds like this are tricky to heal. But..... You knew better.
Yeah, thanks. Considering the local equine vet couldn't even diagnosis an abscess, I have difficulty parting with my hard earned money for something as silly as a cut. I am only frustrated because you will get two answers with EVERYTHING - including the answers from a vet. I am trying to figure out the best common way people deal with problems since personal experience seems to trump anything that comes out of the vets mouth anyway.

If I called the vet for every injury my horses incurred, I'd be homeless.
 
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