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I am looking to adopt this 3-year-old quarter horse gelding to raise and train so that hopefully in the future I can do showing like ranching and gymkhana (specifically barrel racing). I was going through websites and trying to learn more about correct conformation. Then I read about mutton withers (almost nonexistent withers) and how they might affect a horse's athleticism. I will try to attach a picture (if not his website link that has a lot of pictures of him). Can anybody tell me if he does indeed have mutton withers, and if so will it affect how he runs and moves?
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https://www.allaboutequine.org/uplo...00250733977666-7732968722435932160-n_orig.jpg
If you copy and paste that into your search bar, it should come up with a picture.
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He looks mutton withered in that pic but I’ve seen worse. More importantly, for me though, are his feet if you are concerned about movement (as well as long term soundness). The right hind looks clubfooted and the front ones look contracted and a bit long in the toe. The fronts are fixable, the back not so much. Otherwise, he’s a neat looking horse and I’d probably buy him but I’d be using him for trails ‘cause that’s what I like.
 

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That hind right would have me more concerned. But horses do learn to live with adversity and it may not make him any worse for wear. I'd look at his age, workload, and soundness history to determine how it will be for him throughout the rest of his life.

He has a big wither, but the way it's set into his neck and shoulder make it more mutton looking. The challenge can be finding a good saddle set up! He doesn't have much wither where the saddle goes, and that's the important part!
 

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Try to post his website link with all the pictures.

Agree those hooves need more detailed examination for what you want him for.

Another vote the right hind may be slightly clubbed or it could be the camera (more pictures needed).

They are fixable for a great trail horse, maybe not for gymkhana.

He's only three so his body is not done changing. Saddle fit can be difficult and what you find to fit him now, won't fit in three more years:)
 

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I think, as said before, how his neck, shoulder and wither come together makes him look more mutton withered than he is. And his back is going to change and develop as he gets ridden and ages. He looks pretty soft in the picture.
 

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Yeah he is only three years old so he is still young. I have seen videos of him trotting around and playing with other yearlings. I have always been able to spot lameness or incorrect strides and saw nothing wrong in the videos.. If he does have above mentioned conformation flaws, will I be unable to ride him in Gymkhana events? Thank you so much for the help!
Here is the link to his add:
https://www.allaboutequine.org/jasper.html
 

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Yeah he is only three years old so he is still young. I have seen videos of him trotting around and playing with other yearlings. I have always been able to spot lameness or incorrect strides and saw nothing wrong in the videos. If he does have above mentioned conformation flaws, will I be unable to ride him in Gymkhana events? Thank you so much for the help!
Here is the link to his add:
https://www.allaboutequine.org/jasper.html
I am going out to look at him in the morning.
 

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Agree - I think he's not really mutton withered. Looks like he has a great back! That hind foot is really upright, however - I'd ask about that. Like everyone has stated, looks clubbed.
 

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I must be the only one who doesn't see a clubbed foot.
His price is good so if you are seriously considering him, have a vet check him over.

Well defined withers do help with saddle fit and keeping a saddle in place. My mare is mutton withered and is flatter than this guy. Not great on a steep downhill trail.

He's a nice looking horse. Professional advice will help you decide if he is the right one for the activities you want to do'
 

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Okay, so I just got back from looking at the horse and finally got to see what his hoofs look like in person. Turns out he does not have club foot which is a huge relief. For being only three years old and having a history of neglect (He is an All About Equine rescue horse) he has nice overall conformation and seems to be in good health. He also has very nice ground manners (compared to most horses his age). I was able to walk him around and lunge him, and he did better than expected and moves well. Thanks for all of the help!
 

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Okay, so I just got back from looking at the horse and finally got to see what his hoofs look like in person. Turns out he does not have club foot which is a huge relief. For being only three years old and having a history of neglect (He is an All About Equine rescue horse) he has nice overall conformation and seems to be in good health. He also has very nice ground manners (compared to most horses his age). I was able to walk him around and lunge him, and he did better than expected and moves well. Thanks for all of the help!
He is very attractive, a good age and kind. Sounds like a great deal, hope you can buy him and have many wonderful years riding.
 

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So this rescue runs off of donations and sponsors. But there are also two used tack stores they have. All the tack that is being sold by All About Equine is donated, so if there is anybody who is trying to downsize or something, and they have extra tack and do not want to go through the hassle of selling, then it is a great opportunity to donate to help neglected horses. Also, everybody who works there are volunteers, working there out of kindness for these horses.
 

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I think he is cute. I also love a rags to riches story. Like Snowman, Scamper, Bozo, etc. I know that bloodlines and breeding are one way to tell a horse's potential, and I realize that those stories are few and far between, but sometimes I think people get too hung up on papers equalling perfection. Sometimes you just find a good honest horse with a heart at a rescue or being improperly cared for in someone's backyard. I think he's cute and if he is fun to be around then I'm glad you're going for it.
 
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