[heartprints62]

Bubba, thank you for your time invested! This is one of those threads I wish I could print and keep in my back pocket!
Might I add a combo bit to your list:

Reinsman "Hank" bit.
Training bit that works off a horse's nose by using the rose buds on the rope to contact the nerves. Teaches a horse to head-set, flex, turn over his hocks and stop without hurting the bars of his mouth. As you pick up on the reins, light pressure goes to the mouthpiece keeping your horse "light in the mouth". Great for tuning up a mature horse. (Copied from Reinsman website.)

I love this combo bit for the horse that "usually" does fine in a hackamore, but every once in a while needs a lil more. I have also found that on a horse that lacks breaks, this is a great tool for collection and one rein stops.

 

[bubba13]

Looks like an interesting twist on the draw bit theme--I've never seen anything like it. Thanks for sharing.

 

[heartprints62]

Looks like an interesting twist on the draw bit theme--I've never seen anything like it. Thanks for sharing.

Sort of, but with no gag action.
BTW, I meant brakes.... not breaks.... oops
And, your welcome!

 

[Eclipse295]

Thank You!!!!!
I was trying to find bits for my mare I am training because she kept fighting my Argentine Snaffle, I was about to go see if I could find a twisted wire, then I read this and learned that maybe I should just go find the French Link in the "Bit Box" (Literally, It is a box full of bits) and start working on basics as it was probably the "nutcracker effect" that was bugging her. Maybe that will help with the whole "rearing when asked to stop" thing I am planing on showing her in Mainly English but also Western.

Also I am trying to find a Western Show Bit. It has to be a solid mouth piece(no break in it like a snaffle) with at least three inch shanks. Any recomendations? I was looking at something like this: Avila Rio Copper Port Curb Bit - Statelinetack.com Good? Bad?

 

[bubba13]

The bit you posted is a good one, presuming your horse is already trained to neck-rein and you will be riding one-handed with some slack. I'm guessing that by solid mouthpiece the rules won't allow anything hinged like a Myler or Billy Allen? If so, that doesn't leave yo uwith many options, and what you have is about as good as you can get.

As for the rearing mare, I'm also assuming that you've had her teeth looked at, and that you're asking her to stop first with a seat and vocal command, and then by increasing pressure on the reins--and that she's otherwise well-trained and responsive to the bit. Good luck with finding something suitable for her.