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My Morgan mare has an arthritic knee that worsened over the course of last summer. It hadn’t seem to be bothering her much before that but for the last couple of years I’ve ridden her very gently.​
Then one day last fall we had a terrible ride. I can only describe as her “slogging along”. Once we reached the trail in Jim’s wood she refused to move forward which she never has done. I begged and cajoled; nuthin’, so I had no choice but to bring her back home​
When I dismounted I saw that she was​
covered in sweat and it was not a hot day by any means. I sponged her down, gave her some treats and released her into her pasture.​
Doc came out the next week and shook his head after checking out her knee and observing her in motion. “I’m afraid her riding days are over”, he said . I asked him about Bute but he thought it might not be the best idea, saying it might cause stomach issues.​
It’s ok if I don’t ride her anymore but I want to be comfortable so I began giving her a natural supplement containing turmeric, devil’s claw, yucca and willow bark. Having worked with plants my entire life, I knew these plants are a natural analgesic and also anti inflammatory. And it seems to me she’s actually doing better! For instance: when I cleaned the hoof on her bad leg, she was only able to lift it enough to set her toe on the ground and now she’s able to raise that leg a foot into the air!​
I’d be delighted if I could even ride her just around the yard but it’s ok if I can’t. Doc will be out soon enough to give her her shots so I’ll see what he thinks.​
Has anyone out there has success with natural products?​
 

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1. 26 yr old Rusty has a diagnosis of dry hocks and also some stifle issues.

I have him on pure MSM and Lubrisyn HA which has clinical studies behind it.


2. I have 25 yr old Joker, with a twice fractured sacrum, old founder and scarred ligament issues on Camelina Oil. If ever there was a magic bullet, IMO Camelina Oil might be it.

it has greatly reduced his arthritis pain. It hasn’t done anything to help him gain weight but I only feed him one ounce daily.


I also take it and can see a noticeable difference in pain level because the inflammation has been reduced.
 
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1. 26 yr old Rusty has a diagnosis of dry hocks and also some stifle issues.

I have him on pure MSM and Lubrisyn HA which has clinical studies behind it.


2. I have 25 yr old Joker, with a twice fractured sacrum, old founder and scarred ligament issues on Camelina Oil. If ever there was a magic bullet, IMO Camelina Oil might be it.

it has greatly reduced his arthritis pain. It hasn’t done anything to help him gain weight but I only feed him one ounce daily.


I also take it and can see a noticeable difference in pain level because the inflammation has been reduced.
Thank you for the links..unfortunately the first product is out of my price range (hubby and I are both retired) . As for the second one, gosh Angelina doesn’t need anymore weight on her!
 

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Thank you for the links..unfortunately the first product is out of my price range (hubby and I are both retired) . As for the second one, gosh Angelina doesn’t need anymore weight on her!
I wouldn’t worry too much. Joker has been on it since last October and hasn’t gained an ounce from it. That’s why I put him in Triple Crown Senior for awhile.

The Camelina oil does an amazing job at reducing inflammation. So-much-so the equine chiropractor had asked me what I was doing different for Joker.

Ask them if they have a sample container you could try. I saw a difference in Joker in a couple of weeks and a big difference in a month. It was happy tears the day he went out of the barn and was able to buck up with both back legs for the first time in several years - even with his twice broken back😘😘
 
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I wouldn’t worry too much. Joker has been on it since last October and hasn’t gained an ounce from it. That’s why I put him in Triple Crown Senior for awhile.

The Camelina oil does an amazing job at reducing inflammation. So-much-so the equine chiropractor had asked me what I was doing different for Joker.

Ask them if they have a sample container you could try. I saw a difference in Joker in a couple of weeks and a big difference in a month. It was happy tears the day he went out of the barn and was able to buck up with both back legs for the first time in several years - even with his twice broken back😘😘
Wow that’s amazing! It just might be worth the price to try it! Anything to make “Mugsy McMorgan” more comfortable 🙂
Oh, do other people have such silly nicknames for their horses?
 

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Wow that’s amazing! It just might be worth the price to try it! Anything to make “Mugsy McMorgan” more comfortable 🙂
Oh, do other people have such silly nicknames for their horses?
I worked Joker up to one measured ounce daily but divided into two feedings. He loves the stuff. It has a woodsy smell that reminds me of those fake Lady Bugs we have in Tennessee but I’ve gotten used to it, lollol

His manure was getting a little too soft if I fed more. Last night I finished the gallon I bought in October, so it lasts a long time.

I also think it might have the added benefit be good to keep things moving along and possibly help prevent colic because I can see the glisten of the oil on his manure —- the same as when vet’s tube colic horses with mineral oil.

That is important for Joker due to his twice fractured sacrum making it difficult for him to pass manure — another reason I have to really watch what I feed him:confused:
 
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I worked Joker up to one measured ounce daily but divided into two feedings. He loves the stuff. It has a woodsy smell that reminds me of those fake Lady Bugs we have in Tennessee but I’ve gotten used to it, lollol

His manure was getting a little too soft if I fed more. Last night I finished the gallon I bought in October, so it lasts a long time.

I also think it might have the added benefit be good to keep things moving along and possibly help prevent colic because I can see the glisten of the oil on his manure —- the same as when vet’s tube colic horses with mineral oil.

That is important for Joker due to his twice fractured sacrum making it difficult for him to pass manure — another reason I have to really watch what I feed him:confused:
Poor Joker! How did he break his back—-twice?
We have those fake ladybugs (spotted Asian beetles) up here too, and you’re right...they smell awful!
 

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We are currently trying out a supplement called stop the pain or STP pellets for an arthritic mare. It’s about $28 for an 80 day supply. So worth a shot in our eyes
 
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Have you x-rayed the knees/ankles of the horse to make sure it isn't "chips" creating your problem?

Arthritic joints can be painful, yes but the "crud" that builds up in the joint can also break-off and wedge a joint at times and other times free float a bit in the joint fluid...
If the synnovial is dirty and littered with debris it can be screened and replaced if it still has tiny impurities and then if not screen clean replaced, maintained as is needed.
Working with reining horses I saw much joint wear and tear on young animals and what was done and how it was done to lengthen their riding lifetime and comfort level.
Arthritic pain is debilitating to the entire body, taking its toll...
Taking natural, herbal supplements is just as damaging over time to me as it builds up in the body and everything leaves residue.

I understand wanting to stay "natural" but sometimes the magic of modern medicine and what it can do for us and our animals is worth the going off the "natural" and allow man-made intervention, help and in some cases "fixing" of the ailment..
I would want to know positively there were not pieces of broken off arthritic debris creating your problem that using some modern medicine techniques would not allow my horse to be pain-free and ridden again, or just pain-free pasture pet who moved around much better for their sake.
Have you at least investigated to know why or if there is anything that could be done with a bit of invasive procedure the horse may benefit from for years...
It is a thought and honestly, something not just any vet would do to my horse but a specialist in lameness issues who knows all the latest to do the eval and potential follow-up of care rendered.
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Have you x-rayed the knees/ankles of the horse to make sure it isn't "chips" creating your problem?

Arthritic joints can be painful, yes but the "crud" that builds up in the joint can also break-off and wedge a joint at times and other times free float a bit in the joint fluid...
If the synnovial is dirty and littered with debris it can be screened and replaced if it still has tiny impurities and then if not screen clean replaced, maintained as is needed.
Working with reining horses I saw much joint wear and tear on young animals and what was done and how it was done to lengthen their riding lifetime and comfort level.
Arthritic pain is debilitating to the entire body, taking its toll...
Taking natural, herbal supplements is just as damaging over time to me as it builds up in the body and everything leaves residue.

I understand wanting to stay "natural" but sometimes the magic of modern medicine and what it can do for us and our animals is worth the going off the "natural" and allow man-made intervention, help and in some cases "fixing" of the ailment..
I would want to know positively there were not pieces of broken off arthritic debris creating your problem that using some modern medicine techniques would not allow my horse to be pain-free and ridden again, or just pain-free pasture pet who moved around much better for their sake.
Have you at least investigated to know why or if there is anything that could be done with a bit of invasive procedure the horse may benefit from for years...
It is a thought and honestly, something not just any vet would do to my horse but a specialist in lameness issues who knows all the latest to do the eval and potential follow-up of care rendered.
🐴...
Thank you. Unfortunately large animal vets are at a premium around here (my vet is the only equine vet in my county.. luckily I love him) and it may prove difficult to find such a specialist in my area...or even out of my area!
 

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Have you x-rayed the knees/ankles of the horse to make sure it isn't "chips" creating your problem?

Arthritic joints can be painful, yes but the "crud" that builds up in the joint can also break-off and wedge a joint at times and other times free float a bit in the joint fluid...
If the synnovial is dirty and littered with debris it can be screened and replaced if it still has tiny impurities and then if not screen clean replaced, maintained as is needed.
Working with reining horses I saw much joint wear and tear on young animals and what was done and how it was done to lengthen their riding lifetime and comfort level.
Arthritic pain is debilitating to the entire body, taking its toll...
Taking natural, herbal supplements is just as damaging over time to me as it builds up in the body and everything leaves residue.

I understand wanting to stay "natural" but sometimes the magic of modern medicine and what it can do for us and our animals is worth the going off the "natural" and allow man-made intervention, help and in some cases "fixing" of the ailment..
I would want to know positively there were not pieces of broken off arthritic debris creating your problem that using some modern medicine techniques would not allow my horse to be pain-free and ridden again, or just pain-free pasture pet who moved around much better for their sake.
Have you at least investigated to know why or if there is anything that could be done with a bit of invasive procedure the horse may benefit from for years...
It is a thought and honestly, something not just any vet would do to my horse but a specialist in lameness issues who knows all the latest to do the eval and potential follow-up of care rendered.
🐴...
PS.... vet maintains it’s a calcium buildup in the knee joint. He also said she has a bow leg she was probably born with but that it never bothered her until now.
 

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This is probably worth a read. Yes, it's from a nutritional supplement company, but it's one that really does its research and is headed by a guy doing his PhD in equine nutrition. My 24 year old horse gets their Amino Trace+ and W3 omega 3 oil, plus daily low dose Previcoxx. She's still sound, energetic, and the vet was blown away this week with how amazing she looks!

 

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This is probably worth a read. Yes, it's from a nutritional supplement company, but it's one that really does its research and is headed by a guy doing his PhD in equine nutrition. My 24 year old horse gets their Amino Trace+ and W3 omega 3 oil, plus daily low dose Previcoxx. She's still sound, energetic, and the vet was blown away this week with how amazing she looks!

Thank you!
 
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