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I don't know if you ever read this about Barich WSA, but the info is a good read. Perhaps others interested in Spanish Arabians will find it interesting as well.

http://www.spanisharabianhorsesociety.org/SpHist_Barich.html

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One of the most striking things about the *Barich foals is their uniformity. It doesn't take much imagination to guess the outcome of a given mating. "We wanted an inbred of a different line---that strength of pedigree to breed with our linebred mares," says Bruce. "As it turns out, the poorer mares of a bloodline breed as well with *Barich as the best of that bloodline, which means that his strength is coming through the blending of the blood. But, of course, that's hybrid vigor--the crossing of two different inbred lines. "
After Bruce and Gerry saw the great consistency and the prettiness that *Barich was throwing, they went to Spain to research his pedigree, finding that there was nothing bred quite like him. They returned 13 times, subsequently importing several pure Spanish horses, including the handsome *Vallehermoso (Procyn x Betelgeuse by Tabal), who is being used on BruMarBa's *Barich daughters.
Cool read! It's always neat to see how some of the tops outcross for the best results. I wouldn't have thought of a Zodiac Matador cross but I bet they would make a super moving horse.
 
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Thanks! Although if he doesn't get better I might beat him...LOL
I think, though, I would cross her with my Magic Aulrab son...:)
I've seen pics of Magic-- beautiful guy.. but your stallion page is down. Have pics of him?
 
I've seen pics of Magic-- beautiful guy.. but your stallion page is down. Have pics of him?
Here he is - He didn't get the chrome that I was looking to add on my stallion, but when I lost out on him and then he reappeared for sale, I had to have him. He is so incredibly smart, I'm just not sure if it comes from the CMK side or the Khemo blood. :)
 

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I DID see him on another thread..maybe I missed his name. You can't lose with CMK! What a looker! I can see why you'd prefer him for Chevelle. She'd add the chrome too..LOL
 
Druydess that is a great link about Barich. I saw that his sire and dam were very closely related also.
Inbreeding does indeed set type and I am not frightened by it but that would be too close for me to make that call. Then again I would have been wrong not to. LOL
WSarabians I really like your boy also.
I am glad that i bought my stallion before joining this forum or I would be buying a lot of services from certain members in the future. LOL Shalom
 
I DID see him on another thread..maybe I missed his name. You can't lose with CMK! What a looker! I can see why you'd prefer him for Chevelle. She'd add the chrome too..LOL
Thank you!
I love a Russian / Polish cross, but I think a Spanish / CMK cross would be fabulous. Could you imagine the hip and bone on that foal? Phew!

And yup, the chrome would come from everywhere then! He's got sabinos everywhere in his pedigree, and came out like that. His full brother this year has four stockings almost to his belly. LOL
 
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Druydess that is a great link about Barich. I saw that his sire and dam were very closely related also.
Inbreeding does indeed set type and I am not frightened by it but that would be too close for me to make that call. Then again I would have been wrong not to. LOL
WSarabians I really like your boy also.
I am glad that i bought my stallion before joining this forum or I would be buying a lot of services from certain members in the future. LOL Shalom
I've learned a great deal from that site; it's a excellent resource. Line-breeding is a valuable option; one just has to weigh all the possibilities and make the most educated decision possible. Many great horses have been produced because of it, and they've had huge influence on the breed.
 
You just hit on one of my favorites! Fadjur/Fadl.. great breeding and presence! :D
Ah, I know! Fadjur is still one of my all time favourites. He was just simply amazing. I'm really surprised they didn't freeze him.
I was so excited to hear about the Khemosabi colt this year, and the Naridanini and Muscat colt and filly born last year, a Fadjur filly would be the icing on the cake!
 
I understand linebreeding and inbreeding are very good methods of producing great individuals. I have half siblings .... my stallion and a mare that I breed and get great colts.
Just am a little leary of breeding anything much closer. Shalom
 
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I understand linebreeding and inbreeding are very good methods of producing great individuals. I have half siblings .... my stallion and a mare that I breed and get great colts.
Just am a little leary of breeding anything much closer. Shalom
I agree. Anything closer would take a great deal of thought. I'm sure I'll be doing some line-breeding myself when the right individuals present themselves.
I'd love to see the results of your half-sibling breeding sometime when you get the photo/computer things down.. :)
 
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Ah, I know! Fadjur is still one of my all time favourites. He was just simply amazing. I'm really surprised they didn't freeze him.
I was so excited to hear about the Khemosabi colt this year, and the Naridanini and Muscat colt and filly born last year, a Fadjur filly would be the icing on the cake!
There's been a few Ruminaja Ali babies too.. Been in touch with his owner, and the foals are lovely. Isn't it amazing to have the ability to produce great horses even after they're gone??
 
I understand linebreeding and inbreeding are very good methods of producing great individuals. I have half siblings .... my stallion and a mare that I breed and get great colts.
Just am a little leary of breeding anything much closer. Shalom
Yeah, I hear you. I have two that are son/mother breedings. Not one I would do myself personally, but they turned out with only four legs and one head and great minds. :)
 
There's been a few Ruminaja Ali babies too.. Been in touch with his owner, and the foals are lovely. Isn't it amazing to have the ability to produce great horses even after they're gone??
Seeing as how I love my old school Arabians, definitely! I can just imagine what the future can offer in terms of quality frozen semen for this centuries Khemosabis and Fadjurs in the coming years.
 
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Yeah, I hear you. I have two that are son/mother breedings. Not one I would do myself personally, but they turned out with only four legs and one head and great minds. :)
HAHAHAHA!!

Glad all the legs were in order! :shock:
 
just wondering, how would you say Fadjur? i was trying to say it and it comes out sounding awfully close to my name. which is a Arab name.
 
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Thank you!
I love a Russian / Polish cross, but I think a Spanish / CMK cross would be fabulous. Could you imagine the hip and bone on that foal? Phew!

And yup, the chrome would come from everywhere then! He's got sabinos everywhere in his pedigree, and came out like that. His full brother this year has four stockings almost to his belly. LOL
Well- in several years- you just may see that. With Psynny's high Crabbet % and his Russian, I have all of those options in every mare I own..

That's pretty much what I projected long before my 2 colts were conceived. The planning is nearly as much fun as the foaling!! LOL

Gold N Psynn-psyation Arabian

Imagine those bloodlines with my Emma:

Echo Empress Arabian
 
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just wondering, how would you say Fadjur? i was trying to say it and it comes out sounding awfully close to my name. which is a Arab name.
I believe it's said close to what it's spelled like.. but maybe there's some out there knowledgeable in Arabic linguistics.
 
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