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Hi Luvs2jump, afraid there are so many ifs, buts & maybes, along with a few things I flatly disagree with in that first doc by Cavallo, that I'll just say I basically disagree with their advice & that it is potentially asking for trouble to trim in such a manner. Looks a bit Strasser-ish. barefoothorse.com & barehorsecare.com are 2 more great sites with the basic principles of trimming also. Sorry to put another spanner in your works, but it's a good illustration of the importance of learning the *theory & principles* behind the practices in order to make an informed decision on what sort of approach you'll go with.

Of the second link, looks like mainly pretty good info in it. It seems to depend on who you ask as to people's definitions & symptoms of lami & founder tho, so I wouldn't consider it wrong at all, but is different to mine. Lami for eg. may have no obvious symptoms at all for eg. Horses are not always in pain with it, and it may then be termed 'Low-Grade-Laminitis'(LGL). Also the mechanical progression of the untreated 'disease' - founder - doesn't necessarily include 'rotation' of the coffin bone. It is common for a horse to founder(literally means 'sink') without rotation, as the separated coffin bone drops in relation to the capsule. This is commonly seen in racehorses & other intensively kept & fed beasts & causes the 'typical flat TB foot'.
 

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Hi Luvs2jump, afraid there are so many ifs, buts & maybes, along with a few things I flatly disagree with in that first doc by Cavallo, that I'll just say I basically disagree with their advice & that it is potentially asking for trouble to trim in such a manner. Looks a bit Strasser-ish. barefoothorse.com & barehorsecare.com are 2 more great sites with the basic principles of trimming also. Sorry to put another spanner in your works, but it's a good illustration of the importance of learning the *theory & principles* behind the practices in order to make an informed decision on what sort of approach you'll go with.

Of the second link, looks like mainly pretty good info in it. It seems to depend on who you ask as to people's definitions & symptoms of lami & founder tho, so I wouldn't consider it wrong at all, but is different to mine. Lami for eg. may have no obvious symptoms at all for eg. Horses are not always in pain with it, and it may then be termed 'Low-Grade-Laminitis'(LGL). Also the mechanical progression of the untreated 'disease' - founder - doesn't necessarily include 'rotation' of the coffin bone. It is common for a horse to founder(literally means 'sink') without rotation, as the separated coffin bone drops in relation to the capsule. This is commonly seen in racehorses & other intensively kept & fed beasts & causes the 'typical flat TB foot'.
loosie, thanks for the info, and don't worry about the spanner. :D Any and all information is helpful.
 

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Yeah, the Cavallo hoof trimming article produced a very "pretty" trim, but in my opinion, at least with my horses and riding in the rocks and such, I would never take sole off the bottom of the hoof unless it was coming off on it's own and I was just helping it along. And I really don't trim the bars unless they get long, and I don't go cutting around (or rasping) into the sole either, especially if you take the hoof wall down as short as the sole. ( I normally try to leave a little hoof wall too, and not rasp the wall down right into the sole).

So yeah, the trim was pretty, but unless your horses are tougher than mine, they WILL need hoof boots after a trim like that. I honestly don't see why they were trimming the sole at all in that article. Although it created a pretty trim. :?
 

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Yeah, the Cavallo hoof trimming article produced a very "pretty" trim, but in my opinion, at least with my horses and riding in the rocks and such, I would never take sole off the bottom of the hoof unless it was coming off on it's own and I was just helping it along. And I really don't trim the bars unless they get long, and I don't go cutting around (or rasping) into the sole either, especially if you take the hoof wall down as short as the sole. ( I normally try to leave a little hoof wall too, and not rasp the wall down right into the sole).

So yeah, the trim was pretty, but unless your horses are tougher than mine, they WILL need hoof boots after a trim like that. I honestly don't see why they were trimming the sole at all in that article. Although it created a pretty trim. :?
Thanks you! Things that make you go hmm too! :)
 

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pictures of Rylee and Fifi :D

heyy luvs2jump, this has nothing to do with this thread but would you be able to make a photoshoped picture of me and Fifi, (i wasnt sure weather ive told you my name over pm but anyway if not its Rylee :) LOL

if you dont wanna do a photoshoped pic you can just chose any photo program of what you choose :) could you please do it 4 me ???????

if so here is a few pictures of Fifi:
 

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