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First off you havea very nice looking horse and look like a very good rider yourself, some things that I saw where your elbows sticking out and you hands where to far down, you have you elbows at your side and you wrists and hands at a straigh line rom the but relaxed I think you horse wont be so tense in the neck. I also think the you were leaning in to the right and pulling him down with you rright hand making it so he popes his left shoulder out there fore not correctly traveling under himself, this is in the 2nd to last picture I saw that in. Maybe if you make your leg strech down more you can supprt him better and really use your right rain for sontact and half halts in the inside rein while using you leg likea tunnel to guide him. and really work on relaxing rom you shoulder downand letting him strech he slight looks to be fight ing you for the rein.
 

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In one pic we were turning. She's a "greener" mare when it comes to english. I am still trying to figure her out. If I didn't have my elbows out a bit she didn't seem to keep her head down. She hasn't been riden regularly lately either and at times is quite a pain in the butt. Usually all she wants to do is take the bit and run.
 

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With the greenies, I also use the "training wheel" reins to provide a little more communication. While there's nothing wrong with having the reins further apart, just be careful to not cock your wrists as they are in your pics. It destroys the communication to the bit that you're trying to achieve. The rest of you position looks pretty solid to me. You slouch your shoulder a little, that's about it. Pretty horse.
 

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You look really good. Just try to work on your lower leg, and your reins are twisted in lyk one of the pics. In the last couple pictures i would say try to keep your hands down and low, and bring your elbows into you more. But really nice job.
 

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If you're worried about your leg being too far forward, drop your stirrups a hole. Your leg might be a TAD bit too far foward but I don't think it's a big deal, maybe try dropping your stirrups and see how it works. I used to ride with my leg too far forward because I rode with very short stirrups, once I dropped them my leg was fine. From the pictures I could tell your leg looks to be in line with your hip, which is how it should be. Your hands are far apart and your elbows are sticking out, which I believe was already mentioned, other than that you look like a good rider with a very cute horse!
 

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The fundamentals of your position are quite nice, but it looks like you're trying to do too much with your hands, and not enough with your legs. You mentioned that she's green, and so I agree with the comment that in some situations it'll be very helpful to have wide hands (with straight wrists). However, you talked about what you have to do to get her head down - which is where your approach is off.
A horse that learns that they must put their head down or into a "frame" based on rein-aids is learning to ignore their hind end and eventually, come behind the bit or 'curl up.' That's no fun to fix. What you want to do is get her coming from behind into your contact, and learn to sit on her haunches. This will naturally put her into the nice round 'frame' (I hate that wordddd) that we all like so much.
To do this, you need to have an independent seat, leg, and hand. Establish an amount of contact that is NOT pulling, just a constant stability. Don't worry about where her head is, just maintain that straight line from elbow to bit wherever it is. Activate your leg, getting her really moving that hind end. It won't all come together in one ride, but the second she moves up a little and yields to your hand even a tiny bit, you need to give with your inside rein. Eventually, she'll learn to track up behind, arc her neck, and follow the contact.
Good luck :)
 

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Looking at pics 4 and 5...

Pic 4 it looks like your hand is almost touching your crotch... Instead of pulling back think about lifting it a little.. or take up more inside rein.

Pic 5.. i'm assuming you are circling to the right. Your outside rein is firm against that horses neck as your left hand crosses over to the right side. Bring your outside hand away from the horses neck and push him to it with your inside leg. The balance and impulsion this will create will help her "headset".

Also your saddle fit looks a little off.. tilted back. Perhaps a little bit of shimming or having your saddle re-stuffed will help your position and her head position.
 

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I would suggest that you bring your shoulders back, that way you are not leaning forwards. Then also I would say bring in your elbows & when you do sit. Sit deep that way you put your full wieght on him. Alittle more heel depth would be good as well. Bend your arms at the elbow but keep them in & bring your hands up. You dont want them up by your face but you dont want them down in your lap either.
 

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As mentioned above your doing too much with your hands. You have hardly any weight in your stirrups, your basically just sitting on top steering him. You do however have a good basic riding shape.
He looks heavy in the front, you need to lift your hands alittle, and push him through the contact... although help from a good trainer will help heaps. Keep up the good work :)
 

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Holy frick, I had to do a double take there. I used to lease a horse, identical in looks, same color, same star, called Magic. He was a percheron/tb mix. Too funny :p

In regards to your hands. You don't need your elbows out. You can ride her with a wider contact, but that should come from your hands moving apart, not your elbows.
You also look perched on the saddle. Sit back on your seat bones more :)
 

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ahah she's a QH.
as for the saddle fit. It's basically brand new.
I know my hands and legs need some help, and I'll work on it. I find it quite hard to find my position though and sit up. I feel like I'm sitting directly on my crotch. The rein against the neck is the western side of me :p haha she is a western horse as well.
 

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ahah she's a QH.
as for the saddle fit. It's basically brand new.
I know my hands and legs need some help, and I'll work on it. I find it quite hard to find my position though and sit up. I feel like I'm sitting directly on my crotch. The rein against the neck is the western side of me :p haha she is a western horse as well.
Okay? Just because it's brand new doesn't make it actually fit the horse, I wish it were that easy LOL
 

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you make a nice image with the horse. It appears that you are pinching with your knee with not enough weight in your stuirrups. It could just be you getting used to a new saddle, but try to reach down in your stirrups.

Also new saddle doesn't always mean good fit. Maybe you could get a picture of him and the saddle (conformation type shot) to see if it is tipping.
 

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I'm not saying because it's new that it fits perfectly. I should have said there was a post earlier saying it may need to be restuffed. Since it's basically new, I don't think it would need to be restuffed quite yet.

(p.s. It's a her. lol)
 

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Just an update if anyone else reads it!:: I rode Magic again today and I lengthened my stirups two holes, I reallly tried hard to sink into my seat and support her with my legs. I also rode with a loose rein and with my hands closer together and where they should be. I had enough pressure on the reins for her to balance herself, AND she went into a frame and stayed there for a while without me having to hold her there!!!! I felt so much better riding!!! We did lots of trotting and circles and I did lots of stirrupless riding. I had my friend riding with me and I kept asking her about stuff to make sure I wasn't making a fool of myself. I do have a question though, Magic when I'm trotting seems to run at times. I think it may just be me. What are your thoughts? ALSO, I am keeping in contact with a lady I may be taking lessons from!! WOO HOO!

(sadly I didn't get any pictures today :( )
 
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