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I saw a you tube video where the horse bobs head up and down.. Do they all do that? are they smooth? can someone send me a link how to see their website? anyone have one?
 

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Are you referring to a plantation shod horse? Most walkers will have so.e head nod when they are moving out, and yes most of them are smooth or at least are supposed to be.

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The "plantation horse" is a type or class of TWH, not a separate breed.

Most TWHs (and some other similar horses) will have a "head nod" as part of their way of going. This is very desirable in some circles and has been bred for. Some see it as an additional difficulty for the rider to accommodate and not very useful on the trail (or anywhere outside the show ring). So, name your poison!!! :)

There is another whole class and this is "Plantation Shod" horses. These tend to be shod with heavy shoes (up to 48 oz.). They are in many ways the "junior varsity" of the Big Lick horses and have many of the same issues.

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G is pretty well spot on, However something just occured to me. There is a Line of horses I believe they were called "McCurdy Plantation Horses". I'm not sure if Im remembering correctly or not. But, even so I believe they were just a "line" of walkers that was heavily linebred in a given area.

The plantation classes, are just a Heavy shod TWH.

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Yes, TWH's are comfortable. They have, really 6 gaits:
walk
trot
running walk
canter
pace
broken washing machine

The gaits underlined and in blue are the ones to avoid. =D
TWH's were bred to be ridden over long distances without rattling the bones of the rider, as are ALL gaited horses. The Plantation Walker may be a show classification, but these horses drop to the ground at birth and get up gaiting. They do not need any special shoeing or artificial mechanism to train them to be comfortable. They are related to Standardbreds and have a very choppy trot.
 

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The post about the head going up and down sure sounds annoying if just for trail. Anyone have a nodding up and down horse tht is used just for trail?
 

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The post about the head going up and down sure sounds annoying if just for trail. Anyone have a nodding up and down horse tht is used just for trail?
Head nod comes with a properly gaiting TWH horse whether on the trail or in the show ring. It's just part of the physics of how they are put together. Show people to try and teach their horses to exaggerate their natural head movements.
 

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As far as I know, because of the movement of their shoulders/body, all TWHs head bob to some extent. I have ridden smooth and soft Walkers as well as powerful and hard hitting Walkers. It all depends on their breeding and how they're built. Personally I prefer a "glide-ride" and like it smooth and soft, which is what my boy does perfectly.

Yes, TWH's are comfortable. They have, really 6 gaits:
walk
trot
running walk
canter
pace
broken washing machine

The gaits underlined and in blue are the ones to avoid. =D
TWH's were bred to be ridden over long distances without rattling the bones of the rider, as are ALL gaited horses. The Plantation Walker may be a show classification, but these horses drop to the ground at birth and get up gaiting. They do not need any special shoeing or artificial mechanism to train them to be comfortable. They are related to Standardbreds and have a very choppy trot.
Don't forget their beautiful flat walk, I could ride that all day....

Now the broken washing machine, thankfully I've never had to experience that on Rylen ( 4 yo TWH ).


The post about the head going up and down sure sounds annoying if just for trail. Anyone have a nodding up and down horse tht is used just for trail?
I use Rylen on trail only. The head bob is not distracting, he moves without tugging on the reins but keeps soft contact with the bit. They just have to be taught to move/keep within the "confines" of the reins and not pull them out of your hands.
 

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The post about the head going up and down sure sounds annoying if just for trail. Anyone have a nodding up and down horse tht is used just for trail?
I trail ride all of the time, I really don't even notice my horses' head nod.

Although when I took him to the breed shows back in the day, everyone was impressed with his head nod =/
 

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Head nod comes with a properly gaiting TWH horse whether on the trail or in the show ring. It's just part of the physics of how they are put together. Show people to try and teach their horses to exaggerate their natural head movements.
Yes I agree with this. I can create a 'larger' head nod with my horse by collecting him more and asking for bigger movement, or let him out and get a more ground covering gait.
 

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--to answer your specific question:

I saw a you tube video where the horse bobs head up and down.. Do they all do that?No. Those that perform the running walk do bob up and down to varying degrees starting with barely noticeable to even the ears flop. Just depends on the horse.

TWH's whose heads/necks move from side-to-side are performing some version of the pace or rack. Again the degree of movement varies with each horse.

are they smooth?Yes, the running walk is smooth can someone send me a link how to see their website?There are TWH's being bred strictly for pleasure and trail riding. Those folks are called "Heritage Breeders". The word "Plantation" in this day and age is generally associated with "Plantation Pleasure" in the show ring anyone have one?
If you're interested in Heritage Breeding, here's a link that may be informative.

twhheritagesociety.com

If you're interested in a Tennessee Walker that isn't a Tennessee Walker (you will have to read the link to understand that one:lol:

These are the McCurdy Plantation Horses.

McCurdy Plantation Horse

If you want to delve into the history of the Tennessee Walker and learn who they WERE instead of what they've become, Walkers West has the best compilation of their ancestry of anyone on the Net.

Walkers West - Tennessee Walking Horse breeders and brokers, world-wide. and cursor down to the little block that has Ancestor Gallery, Foundation Book, Breed History, etc.
 

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This breed was referred to as Plantation Walking Horses, years and years ago.

And the head nod is what you want to see. It means they are moving as they are supposed to.

Not aggravating at all, wonderful.
 

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G is pretty well spot on, However something just occured to me. There is a Line of horses I believe they were called "McCurdy Plantation Horses". I'm not sure if Im remembering correctly or not. But, even so I believe they were just a "line" of walkers that was heavily linebred in a given area.

The plantation classes, are just a Heavy shod TWH.

Jim

Not all Plantation classes are heavily shod. You have your light shod plantation (also simply called Lite shod division) in which the shoes are much lighter and have no caulks on them, and are a step above flat shod and a couple steps below heavy shod. Your typical heavy shod horses have large shoes (that can indeed weightup to 48 ounces) are normaly turned back at the heel (large square caulks) and in most instances have to require a band to help keep them on. Yes heavily shod plantation horse do suffer much the same plight of the Perfromance type. Much less so in the light shod variety how ever they are not totaly exempt from unscrupulous trainers. I used to show light shod and flat shod country (or flat shod pleasure) style. Most of these types do not have thier tails "fixed". Although many do have excessive toe growth on thier hooves (esp heavy shod) to exadurate the gait and encourage action. In your light shod or counrty pleasure to much knee lift action is discouraged and frowned upon: traveling more naturaly is encrouaged and judged upon. In Heavily shod Plantation the knee should not exceed the height of the point of shoulder where as in Big Lick Performance there is no limitations that I am aware of.
 
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