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Price questions for untrained horse

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#1 ·
there is a mare I have fallen in love with.
She is halter broke and will let you mess with her legs and feet.
Loves attention. she is well put together, no glaring confirmation faults that i can see. She moves well.

I have asked about buying her but the owner wants some offers.

What would you be willing to pay for a registered Morgan, 5 years old with no training?

I know at least 4 trainers that I could ask for help, so training isn't a problem.
 
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#2 ·
I don't know about there, but in this part of the country it would be $150 to $250 at the most. Just too many unbroke horses. 4 to 6 months of training will put the cost up. She will still cost you $3000 to $4000 when done. And that depends on what you want her to do. Let your trainer check the horse out and give you an idea of how much and how long it is going to take to get her where you want her to be. Don't let your heart buy the horse. You have got to look at it from a very long term purchase. It is easy to fall in love with and hard to let go if things don't go right. TAKE YOUR TIME. and good luck.
 
#3 ·
Not a lot of registered Morgan's in my area. I'd probably offer 600 and see if she'd counter. I'm assuming she's never had her feet done? what about teeth care? vaccines? All things you can take into consideration when talking price.

I'd also take a quick look around your local classifieds/horse sites and see what unbroke horses are selling for. That will give you a good idea what to offer as well. Your state is probably more expensive when it comes to horse purchase price than states out west, but it's hard to know without cruising to see what's currently available.
 
#4 ·
Free.

I have a registered 6yo Morgan right now in my yard. He has had a lot of ground work done on him. Supposedly. The gal that gave him so us took him back when it was discovered he was a bucker and had 60 days put on him before we took him back.
 
#5 ·
It really, really, depends on the horse, the area your in, and the market. Is the horse show quality? High level show quality? Just backyard/trail/pleasure riding quality? Assuming there's nothing bad to say about her temperament, soundness, or current baggage. I've seen unbroken horses over 4 sell for 10k+, and some they would have to pay me to take. There's just such a range. Around here a horse like that, good temperament, probably could be a beginner horse in a year or two of good training, unbroke, would be anywhere from free to $1000 depending on the type of horse (not just breed mind you, but type and what the horse is suited for).
 
#6 ·
I would see if one of the trainers that you know could take a look at this mare. Not only would they have a better idea of what she is worth but they could also give you an idea of what your investment in training would be. You certainly can try to find some green horses for sale and compare prices. You can also get prices on well started horses and deduct training fees and upkeep to come up with an offer.
 
#7 ·
It depends on the lines of the Morgan, its "style" i.e. lippet or other. Otherwise, like the others said it depends on what horses in your area are going for. It also depends on how much you want to pay and how desperate the owner is to sell.
 
#8 ·
With any untrained horse, what you are buying is potential.

Yes, there are untrained young horses that go for 5 and 6 figures, but those usually come from good lines, have parents with a great performance record and the breeder has gone to great length to produce an outstanding foal.

A backyard bred horse whose parents have done nothing (or where the "famous" horses in the pedigree are several generations back) and who has sat in a field for 5 years cause no one could be bothered to do anything with it... is worth next to nothing. Registered mares tend to bring a little more money than unregistered ones, but for geldings it doesn't really matter.

So take a good look at the papers, talk to the owner/ breeder (not sure if that's the same person) and then decide.
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#10 ·
In Ontario Canada the asking price would probably be $500. Really depends on the horse and situation though.
 
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#11 ·
I've tried offering to just take her. the owner offered me the mares mother who is 10 but has some training but would need some re-training, she won't let you halter her and is aloof. ( i'm not sure if that is a red flag or she just needs someone to trust)

both have had vaccines and feet done ( though not to my standards of hoof care)
 
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#12 ·
I would check her breeding, then think about what training you want/need. You're lucky in the standpoint that you can see if she's built to do what you want. (For instance she might be built like a saddle seat horse, or she might be built like a reiner so you're not guessing like you would with a yearling.)

For instance do you need to hire a trainer, or are you competent enough to break and finish this mare?

If you need a trainer I would factor that into what I would offer. For instance if her lines are good and she's broodmare material I would offer probably around $300-$600. $300 or lower if I needed to hire a trainer, and if I could break her I'd be a bit more generous.

If her lines are just 'okay' and you'll need to hire a trainer I would be very hesitant to offer more than a couple hundred for her.

I've worked with Morgans for years, and the majority of the 'unbroke' five year olds have been very easy to train so her age would not be a huge deterrent for me.
 
#13 ·
I would be able to do basics, but that's about it as far as me doing any training. She is built like the old fashioned morgans, sturdy.

where are you located? can i pick your brain?


What about for a 10 year old needing refreshers? and seemingly doesn't like to be haltered?
 
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#14 ·
I'm in the midwest, I'm sure myself and others on the forum would be willing to have our brains picked! ;-)

That's the best kind of Morgan! haha

As always a trainer who's there in person would be more able to asses the 10 year old and see if she would be 'worth' it. Though I'm often hesitant to make judgments online. I will advise you take everything I say with a grain of salt because I don't know the horse personally! lol
 
#15 ·
thank you, and i know, online is just informational.

i'll leave this thread for pricing

i'll start a new thread in training.
 
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#16 ·
It is as someone else said: "whatever the market will bear"

While blood lines are important for things in the show ring, they are not important if you are wanting her for a trail horse.

For starters, don't keep going back to the Seller, or you will never get the horse for a decent price.

You have gone back and forth with her enough, that I would take the trailer, put $600 cash money in my pocket (make all in 20's), offer the woman $450 including papers and see what happens.

If you work your way up to the $600 in your pocket and the Seller still says no, walk away. Say you are sorry, the horse might be worth more than that to someone else but, you have to pay for a trainer and $600 is your absolute limit.

Mean what you say and walk, telling her over your shoulder, to call if she changes her mind anytime soon because you are continuing your horse hunt.

Rule Number One of horse shopping is to never fall in love with a horse that the Seller says, right up front, they want offers. They will play you like a fiddle until they possibly get more out of you than they expected.
 
#18 ·
If he offered the mother for free and these are his only two horses, make him a really low offer to take both. I would not go over $200 in this area and that would be with both sets of papers. They won't do him any good. I once made an offer on a horse of $800 on a very good AQHA mare with great papers. They wanted $2500. I walked, They called me back 4 months later. By that time they were thankful to get the $800. She is still one of the best horses that I have owned.
 
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