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Has anyone heard of saddleseat riding? What is the purpose of that? Sry but I think it's weird and they are so cruel to those horses.
 

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Different strokes for different folks I guess. Not something I would be interested in doing. I think its a reason to get fancy pants clothes :lol:
 

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Saddleseat is one of my favorites.
I love to see a truely talented Park horse strut its stuff.

What's the purpose of ANY riding style? For pleasure? For show? Is riding a horse in any way actually even "natural" for it?


Origins are from smooth-moving, high-stepping horses that were used by plantation owners to travel around their fields. The horses had to be smooth for the long hours spent in the saddle, but they were also "flashy". Another influence was European: On Sundays, riders would show off their flashiest, most animated horse. Hence the terms "park" or "park action."

Alot of the horses used for saddleseat are bred for it.

And not ALL OF THEM ARE CRUEL.
Their are cruel people in EVERY riding discapline. Park, reining, western pleasure, halter, eventing... Cruelty is a part of the horse industry and probably always will be.

My mother showed Country English Pleasure on the Arab circuit for years and was NEVER cruel to her horse in any way, shape, or form. I can't speak for other saddleseat-type horses [Saddlebreds, Walkers, Morgans etc] but the Arab show circuit [at least when my mother showed] was strict about their rules. Hooves could only be so long, shoes could only weigh so much. I'm almost posivitve that tail-setting is prohibited on the Arab circuit.
Yes, I'm sure some people still used cruel training methods outside the showring though. But it's unfair to say ALL saddleseat riders/trainers are abusive.

http://www.usef.org/documents/breeds/ArabBook.pdf

Those are the guidelines for Arabs. It tells the leangth and such of shoes/hooves.

Like I said. Abuse is part of the horse industry. Not EVERY rider in a specific discapline is guilty of it though.

Sorry. That was a bit of a rant. But I can't tell you how many times I've heard things like that. lol.
 

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Sorry didn't mean to insult anyone :oops: I do agree there is cruelty in all animal areas. I hear all the time about riding gaited horses isn't really riding (I ride a gaited horse) and trail riders are all old geezers who shouldn't be on a horse. So I know how it is when someone disses your riding style or horse. I'm always amazed how many people dislike gaited horses :? Who knows, but I love mine.
 

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Sorry didn't mean to insult anyone :oops: I do agree there is cruelty in all animal areas. I hear all the time about riding gaited horses isn't really riding (I ride a gaited horse) and trail riders are all old geezers who shouldn't be on a horse. So I know how it is when someone disses your riding style or horse. I'm always amazed how many people dislike gaited horses :? Who knows, but I love mine.
Sorry. I wasn't trying to sound mean. I was just trying to get some facts out there. I always hear a load of crap about how Arabs are so wound up and nuts, and even MORE crap about how saddleseat riding is such a horrible thing to be into, blah blah blah.
To each his own. Or whatever that saying is, lol.

I love gaited horses. I'm sooo madly in love with Paso's. I'd kill to own one. And I think it'd be so awesome to take a Saddlebred for a spin... Haha, we used to board at a Fox Trotter stable, and my mother's in love with them now, after she got to trail ride a few. :lol:
 

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I'm sorry I had to delete that post....It was rude. Everyone here is entitled to there own opinions please keep this in mind. Maybe what you should have done is tell everyone your views.
 

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Holey moley guys settle down! :? Every one...as many stated are allowed to there own opinion...wether u think its wrong or not. Horseluver, can you tell me what was the purpose of this post? You must of knew somethings about it (saddle seat riding), other wise you wouldnt of said it was cruel... :roll:
 

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Thank you Barnrat

Delregans Way, I wasn't meaning anything i just like to hear other oppinions on things. I know this girl at my barn who rides saddleseat and she doesn't even like horses she's mean to them. I'm glad other people like it. You should be alowed to post your oppinion without getting yelled at.
 

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Thats good horseluver. And i wasnt yelling sweety lol :lol: You do have a point... and im glad your open minded towards the matter. This girl, do you know for absolute sure she 'hates' horses...thats a big conclusion to come to, have you heard her side of the story first..? Sorry if u thought i was having a go at you darl...im glad you didnt take it the wrong way :wink:
 

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sadly some people harm horses thinking its the only way to make things work. It's sad...but sometimes you can't get through to them....*thinking of someone at the barn...*
 

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Thank you Barnrat

Delregans Way, I wasn't meaning anything i just like to hear other oppinions on things. I know this girl at my barn who rides saddleseat and she doesn't even like horses she's mean to them. I'm glad other people like it. You should be alowed to post your oppinion without getting yelled at.
One bad person doesn't make the rest of the horrible.
But I can see how that would change your opinion about it.

It is completely possible to train and ride a brilliant saddleseat horse without being cruel in anyway though. Trust me. I've seen it done. :wink:
lol.
 

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Yeah that girl i was talking about, I never see her at the barn. She used to show saddleseat for awhile but they sold it becuase it was to old to show, which it wasnt becuase it was only 9! And she doesn't even spend time with the horses she just has a trainer tire it out so she can get on and show it. She thinks of it all as a sport and now she's doing basketball becuase she doesn't have a horse becuase she will only take a top dollar show horse. She claimes any cheaper than $50,000 is not a good horse. Which is so not true! Usually it's the other way around. My horse was $1200 and she's the best! (lol I hope she doesn't come on here!)
 

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The horse that I used to show the woman bought for only $900. She was a paint, and the owner sold her because she was "untrainable" at four years old. Buh-Loney!! Karol trained that horse into a champion. Heidi is a registered paint, and a beautiful one at that. She's a shining star in the show ring and a very flashy trail horse, and has brought home many Ribbons in both hunter/jumper, dressage, and western. She is a magnificent animal that was never given a chance.
 

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I am not a fan of Saddleseat, honestly I think it's goofy but that's MHO. :) I have never had desire to ride Saddleseat.

That said I don't every knock the people who do because you do what makes you happy. There are horse abusers in EVERY dicipline of riding, sadly there probably always will be.

I think Saddleseat is great for people who truly enjoy it and their horse enjoys it. True, I do get a bit ****y when I see people riding Arabians in park but again that's my personal opinion. :)
 

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For about a month, I rode this National Show Horse (saddlebred/Arab cross) who had been trained in Saddleseat. He was retired and donated to my local therapeutic riding center (I was giving him his "trial" period to decide whether he would be suited for the kids). I only had training in Huntseat, and we only had access to a Dressage saddle. So, it was a strange combination, but that horse was amazing! He was the sweetest little cuddlebug! And he had a canter to die for!! From my not-so-experienced view on things, he had normal feet and tailset.

Anyways, just an example of a good Saddleseat experience from a non-Saddleseat person!

PS-I loved the comment on Saddleseat just being an excuse to dress up fancy! That's the reason why I tried Western for a season...all the colors and bling!! :D Now back to...khaki or beige breeches? Navy pinstripe or navy windowpane coat? Oh boy all the options!! :roll:
 

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I definately think its an 'acquired taste' in the riding world. My cousin rode saddleseat and I was doing hunter/jumper as I've always done. Her mom didn't like hunter so sometimes I'd hear her say something about it being stupid and redundant because its so popular so everyone does it. Well I think Saddle Seat is definately out of the ordinary when it comes to riding styles and its foreign to me and my english family. But I don't rudely voice my opinion to my neice like she did. If it weren't for her I might have a better outlook on it but I see what you mean when it comes to saddleseat being a meaner way of riding. My experiences were that while I was at the saddlebred breed show at the Fair Grounds, everyone there was riding saddleseat and I saw alot of people that would strong arm and whip their horses. Alot of horses, saddlebreds and arabians would jump and rear and fall back on the riders. This also happened to my cousin when she got her saddlebred. She has a way of whipping the horse when it doesn't need it but she still is a horse lover. Anyhow maybe its just my experiences but I don't think I can really trust a saddlebred after the ones I've seen, even the top dollar ones. They all seem extremely hyper and hard to control.
 

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Thanks :)
 

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What is weird about it and why do you say it is cruel? Please explain and then if its ok with you I would like to educate you on the truth of Saddle seat to straighten out the the myths, rumors and misunderstandings.
 
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