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My paint gelding might have Pssm. We might have him tested for it. Theres a form to fill out and then it says you have to pull 20 hairs from the root of the mane or the tail to be tested on to see if he has it or not.

My mom is going to call the vet first and talk about it with her before we send in the form.

my question is...can my horse get this pssm from his sire. His sire's website says that he is Homozygous Tobiano Homozygous Black OLWS Negative.

Does that have anything to do with pssm?

If he does have it,then we are going to change his food around. its already being work on .. he is getting 2 cups of oil for the fat part of the diet. but im not sure what else is going to get changed.

I just want my horse to be okay.

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OLWS is Overo Lethal White Syndrome, it is more of a concern in breeding horses that could throw a lethal white foal (which would die in the first 3 days after birth). I don't know what PSSM is, but OLWS should not be of any concern since you own a gelding.

At least as much as I know about it.
 

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PSSM can be inherited from either or both parents, and the stuff on the sire's webpage has noting to do with it--those are unrelated genes. Are you going to test for both types? What makes you suspect PSSM?

We had a Belgian gelding who died of it a few years back....but we caught it far too late to make any changes for him. I think they know way more now than they did even five years ago, and are far better at managing the disease.
 

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When my QH tied up, that's what led me to a diagnosis of PSSM. I talked to my vet and we decided against the test and just changed her feed because if it was a positive test the thing to do is change feed anyway. So far so good(fingers crossed) the diet changes did the trick, I feed Grow and Win with ground soybean, grass hay and lots of turn out.
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bubba....my horse tied up over the summer. Now hes not moving forword well. so we think it could be the pssm.

my vet came out to see him in the summer and did tests on him. She gave us papers on pssm. the infor on there seems to fit my horse.

Mike...does it cost alot of money to change your horse's feed to the new food? what happend when your horse tied up? how long ago did it happen?

My horse did it over the summer. He didnt want to move. Now he still doesnt want to move forword. Was your horse like that?

As i said before..we are working on changing his food. We have to do some more research on the food.
 

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Mike...does it cost alot of money to change your horse's feed to the new food? what happend when your horse tied up? how long ago did it happen?

My horse did it over the summer. He didnt want to move. Now he still doesnt want to move forword. Was your horse like that?
It does cost some more, my horse is picky though and on top of that not an easy keeper. The first time she tied up I was graining her heavy, like I said she's didn't hold weight see the vicious cycle there. It happend right away in our warm up, she just locked up and sweat came out of every pore. I called the vet out and a shot of banamine helped bring her out of it. I was riding her again a few days or a week later. That was two summers ago. She did it again this spring but I was still figuring out the feed and lack of turnout was the cause.

The Grow N Win is just a ration balancer,and the ground soybean is her source of fat calories. That's the nice thing about a two part feeding system, I can substitute cereal grains with the soy.

Turnout is the most important part though, that way they are burning off the sugar they do get. I even regulate pasture time because of sugars in the fresh grass. I might not even put her on pasture the day before I have a planned ride.
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Feed your horse like it's prone to founder. Free choice hay, ration balancer for vitamin/minerals beet pulp & veggie oil for more calories if needed. As a previous poster already said.. 24/7 turn out helps.
 

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Bubba....No. Not that i know of.

Mike,
Thank you for the infor.

My horse is outside 24/7. Only problem is he doesnt run around to move those muscles. He just stands or walks around. Its a dirt paddock. No grass.

My horse gets 2 cups of corn oil with the grain and he gets a thing of source supplements and alot of hay.

What do you do with your mare when you ride her? I ride english pleasure with some jumping.. but not much.

We have brand new fencing for the arena..so i can free lunge him before i ride. So that will get hiim moving more.

hes only 9 years old. i hope this doesnt happen every year.
 

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Update....

We are going to do the dna test which means pulling 20 mane or tail hairs to see if he has pssm.

We are going to get carb guard for my horse. Tractor sells the food which is nice. Its by blue seal.

but ive been looking up other brands of food that also has the high fat low starch stuff. The stores that sell these brands arent close to home. So i guess we will go with the blue seal brand. But i did see that nutreena has feed at tracor supply too. so maybe we can look into that as well.

So it will be very interesting to see what the dna tests come up with.
 

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At 2 C oil, you've got him at a good amount but how long has he been on it? They typically need about a month for their muscles to "learn" how to use fat as a fuel source. What type of hay does he get? That's probably the next thing to test if you don't see improvments with the grain change. Depending upon the variety and some variable in regards to growing and harvesting, the sugar level can be very high.
 

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At 2 C oil, you've got him at a good amount but how long has he been on it? They typically need about a month for their muscles to "learn" how to use fat as a fuel source. What type of hay does he get? That's probably the next thing to test if you don't see improvments with the grain change. Depending upon the variety and some variable in regards to growing and harvesting, the sugar level can be very high.

How long has my horse been on what?

Im not sure what kind of hay my horse is getting. i dont do the feeding.
 
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