Hi, there! So I bought a horse that needed some TLC and groceries for $100. He was a stallion at the time, and they agreed to let me keep him on their property until I got him castrated. I went up there frequently to love on him and work on his ground manners (the previous owners had requested that I didn't ride him on their property until he was castrated). I took a bag of feed and dewormer to the place he was for them to text me and tell me that I needed to come get the feed, that it wasn't right. (my horse, I believe I'll feed him what I like) Then they tried telling me I owed them money for feed and hay and CASTRATION. They castrated my horse without my permission by someone who isn't a licensed vet. And want me to pay for it! My horse shares the pasture with his colt, who is their horse, and they shared feed and hay. I told them I'd pay half because he was sharing with his son. They then informed me that they administered shots and antibiotics themselves (also without my permission), claiming that they knew what they were doing because they worked in a vet's office for years and were "pretty sure" he couldn't overdose on Penacillian! I'm a minor, so I also had my mom sign the bill of sale, although they're trying to tell me it isn't valid. They won't give my horse unless I pay them their "desired" amount, even though I feel like I owe them nothing. Can't even give me receipts. They're coming up with every response in the book, that it's not valid because I'm not 18 (they knew my age and still accepted the money, and my mom signed it also), I owe them, etc. They even threatened to press charges on me for trespassing! Please help, TIA!
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I think your parents need to handle this. Obviously these people are trying to pull a fast one on what they think is a child. If your mother signed the bill of sale, legally the horse belongs to her. You should find another place to take this horse IMMEDIATELY. Contact the police in regards to agister's laws (boarding law). They may have to prove that they spent money on your horse and produce receipts or records to such.
Let this be a lesson for the future - get EVERYTHING in writing when dealing with horses. Your parents can see what needs to be done about having the horse escorted off the property.
Let this be a lesson for the future - get EVERYTHING in writing when dealing with horses. Your parents can see what needs to be done about having the horse escorted off the property.
I spoke to a deputy about it and he said I could make them pay a fee for castrating my horse in the incident that I wanted to use him for a stud, which I'm not interested in. I said that I don't want conflict and we can use call the costs even & get my horse. But I drove by, as I do every day on the way to my barn, and they were dropping off an empty trailer and I think he was gone. :/
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how long elapsed from when you bought him to when they castrated him? and had you said you would get him castrated? and had you given them a time frame as to when that would take place?
were you paying board for him, while he was there.? did you pay them the $100 first or was that what you WERE to pay, once the gelding happened?
were you paying board for him, while he was there.? did you pay them the $100 first or was that what you WERE to pay, once the gelding happened?
Two weeks after I bought him I woke up to a text saying I owed them for shots, castration, antibiotics, etc. I had told her, "IF I get him castrated, it'll be a while." No, there's no written board contract, she told me I could keep him there until I figured out what to do with him. And I had already paid the 100 when I bought him, as it says on my bill of sale.
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So wait a minute... You went by.. didn't see your horse.. Saw them bringing back an empty trailer.. Are you concerned about where they took him, if they actually took him off of the property!? You didn't stop by and make sure your horse was there?.. Or did I read that incorrectly?
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I couldn't stop by, they threatened me with trespassing charges. I just want to wait until I go up there to pick him up so it'll be a done deal, with a deputy escort so nothing can be said. Doubt they would've told me anything except to get off their property. :/ It's killing me.
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Did you call the police to tell them that they took your horse ( which you legally own ) off the property without consent?
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Wow. They are completely in the wrong. Unless they put it in writing that you were paying for castration and shots then you owe nothing more. The bill of sale is still good as long as it was signed by both parties. You will likely have to take this to court. Contacting the Sheriff was the right thing to do. You'll need to file charges with the Sheriff that they stole and castrated your horse. Unfortunately for smaller amounts of money they may defer you to small claims court or something stupid. That's why you need to go after them for castrating your horse because of the potential loss of income from stud fees. I think that's why the Sheriff suggested that.
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That is the other option. It's only $100. You could just walk away from it and save yourself a lot of time trying to get it back.
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Only the DA can file a criminal case. They are unlikely to do so in this situation as it is a civil matter between private parties.
I agree with those who say get the parents involved ...
You should have paid the $100.00 and taken him immediately. You didn't. Your best bet now is to just donate you $100.00 and walk. Possession is 9/10 of the law and they have him. They can slap as many board charges on him as they want. Just cut your losses and learn to have all details fully undrstood and ON PAPER and have both parties sign it. You just got a $100.00 lesson in handling things in a way that leaves nothing to guesswork or to the integrity of people that you do not know.
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And I am here to reinforce that even IF you win in small claims-collecting is a whole 'bother issue. Difficult, if not impossible, and mine is $2K.
Not going to donate the $100. I refuse to leave him with the owners, I will fight tooth and nail over this little guy. And yes, it is illegal in my state to castrate a horse or administer any veterinary services to a horse that isn't yours without a license.
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If that is the case then advise them of this law and tell them you're going to report them to the relevant authorities if they don't hand over the horse
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Just wanted to check in so i can follow this thread to see how it turns out.
But i have a man who claims i owe him board, when in fact we had an agreement stating otherwise. My horses are no longer on his property and he cant prove anything so i just let it go.
He has not attempted anything more than empty threats.
But i have a man who claims i owe him board, when in fact we had an agreement stating otherwise. My horses are no longer on his property and he cant prove anything so i just let it go.
He has not attempted anything more than empty threats.
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