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I'm ranting here, but feel free to post the opinions (even totally opposite). May be I'm just missing something... :wink:

I've been taking private (and not cheap I must say) lessons for several months now. Took them also in winter when not too many people were interested because of the weather and all. Now I couldn't make April because of the visitors I had and because I was too sick (no voice for 2+ weeks). I warned the trainer in advance I can't make the April but will be back again in May. However my time was given away permanently to someone who showed up as the weather got nicer and started to brag the trainer about that time.

Now yes, I DO understand it's business and money, but shouldn't the trainer tell that person it's just for one month? Or dumping me was a right way to go? I'm confused, because when I was in similar situations I always told people it's temporal because this, this, and that. Is it a norm for horse business? I was told I can do it late, but then I have to drive truck/trailer in dark (1+ hour drive one way), and I'm bad about driving in dark even my little car (I can't see really well), so it's just not an option (which I did explain now and did before).

Anyway, I'm somewhat PO because now I have to look for another trainer...
 

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You told the trainer you had to stop in April, but you'd be back in May. How many people do you think has told her that same thing over the years and then just disappeared, never to be heard from again? I'm betting it's a lot.

Plus, if you aren't taking lessons in that time slot she still has to pay her bills and feed her horses, so a current paying customer will get the pick of the slot over someone who might be coming back.

Truly, it really is nothing but business. She had a slot to fill and money that needed to be made, so she did what she needed to do.

I can understand your frustration, but you shouldn't take it personally.

She didn't kick you to the curb and refuse to train you, you just don't want any of the current slots she has open.

If you expect someone to hold a time or space for you, you should pay them for it. There was no guarantee, other than your word, that you'd be back and that's not going to get her bills paid in the meantime.
 

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I think Speedracer has a good point. I have had people ask to reserve a spot with me then flake out later and it can put the trainer in a bit of a bind if they have turned down work counting on that business. I'm a great one for loyalty so I would have held your spot if you had taken lessons with me all through the winter but not everyone would do that or be able to do that.
 

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I'd have to agree with Speed_Racer on this one unfortunately! The horse crowd is a funny funny bunch, much like how being a farrier seems to be the only job in history where you can get away with showing up hours late, not showing up at all, showing up drunk, and STILL have no problems being employed! :lol:

Unfortunately, the flakiness extends to a lot of horse people. It's a cut throat business, and the lessons and training they do are their only means of paying bills. They're self employed, it's not like they can fall back on employment insurance, and it's not likely they have affordable health benefits either!

She could have informed the new student that the slot was only available for a month, but then she risks the student making alternate plans with someone else - and then you don't show up, and she's lost ANOTHER customer.

Me and Shay-la were recently taking lessons with a big name Dressage coach in our area, and as good as she is, dealing with her can be quite the party sometimes. She's notorious for losing track of time, not showing up for lessons, cancelling at the last minute, etc. It's all part of the game - I worked for her as a stable manager for a year and I know EXACTLY how she gets! I know that and accept that about her, otherwise I'd probably spend a lot of time being mad!

Look on the bright side - EVERY trainer/coach has something new to offer you, and the diversity can be a good thing! :)
 

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Well, I would likely have filled your spot for the first month, then called you a week or two before this month started to find out for sure if we were back on, and rearranged the schedule. I would have made sure the client who had started when you stopped, knew that the time they had this one month, may not be available the following month. If you were a regular client, I would personally try my best to keep you, even if you did have to take some time off.

Now, if you hemmed and hahhed about whether you could continue, I would have continued, no doubt, with the client that was currently working at your time...I would have to keep the client who is being consistent, and not take the gamble on whether you were going to come back or not.
 

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It is unfortunate that you have been put in that position, but I also have to agree with SR, it is all just business. Like the old saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
 

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Thanks, folks! Yes, I understand what you are saying, I didn't think from that side.

But there were so many discussions on how we'll work with my horses and such (I took lessons on barn horse, because my horses were off work for winter). And I was always so cooperative to reschedule the lessons when the barn had emergency or something else planned (most times it was on day of lesson). And after I said I'm taking April off, will continue in May, I actually took a weekend clinic in that place in the end of April as well on my own horse, so that should of show I'm not going to rip off. That's what really upsets me. And I'm not arguing or defending myself here, just giving more details.

Oh, well... There are other trainers out there, so... I'll just give another try. :wink: At least I feel better after ranting! lol!
 

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Look on the bright side - EVERY trainer/coach has something new to offer you, and the diversity can be a good thing! :)
Lol! My mom always says "any change is to the better". :D So will see...
 

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I too agree with SR, even with the new information you gave us.

The person who took your spot might have been a long term client who just took the winter off. How are they less worthy of a spot than you are?

You say in your OP that you took two weeks off because of company and two weeks off because you were sick. Could there have been a misunderstanding about how long you were going to be gone?
 

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I'm more inclined to agree with Mom2pride. If I was your trainer, I would explain that the time slot was open for a month but if my regular didn't come back, that she could have it.

Yes, I know that there was no guarantee that you would return but, unless the other rider was with me for a time, there is no guarantee that she would be there as a regular either. You, on the other hand, were with the trainer for the winter and only missed the month due to illness. I would try to accommodate the two of you but with an emphasis on you.
 

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*giggles* See where bad grammar gets us? :oops: Sorry!
It's all good; I was just teasing you. :D

Kitten, I really can see both sides of the issue and I understand why you're frustrated, but a paying customer trumps the one who isn't paying at the moment. Plus, horse trainers usually don't have the best people skills, which is why they primarily work with horses.
 

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Another in agreement with Speed Racer. You wouldn't believe how many people have told me they were going to "take a break for a few weeks" and then never came back. If someone is vague about how long this break is going to be I tend to fill their spot as soon as they leave. However, if they specifically tell me I will be back on this date, I may fill it for the weeks you're gone, but i generally try and keep the spot open. As a whole though it's not a good business move to not fill an empty spot, esp if you have people waiting to fill it. Does she not have another time or day you can come and ride?
 

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I too agree with SR, even with the new information you gave us.

The person who took your spot might have been a long term client who just took the winter off. How are they less worthy of a spot than you are?

You say in your OP that you took two weeks off because of company and two weeks off because you were sick. Could there have been a misunderstanding about how long you were going to be gone?
That's a new client (from what I was told).

The way the schedule works it goes by month. I knew for sure I won't be able to make first 2 weeks of April so I told about it in beginning of March. I was told my spot will be given to that new person for the whole month of April then, and I'll be returning in May again (so really 2 unexpected weeks of sickness didn't change anything).

That's OK though. I'm over it now and will look for someone more loyal I guess. Lol! Anyway, I'm giving calls to couple other places today... :D
 

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Does she not have another time or day you can come and ride?
The short answer no. :) They compete on weekends, so only weekdays are left, and unfortunately with my work and (big) commute I can only do evenings, but evenings are all busy unless you do it really late (and I have to commute to the barn 1+ hour one way). But as I said, it's OK. I'm over it and done with ranting now! :wink:
 
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