Sigh….I have so many pet peeves. Photos taken from the fence when the horse is in the pasture about 100 yards away. Horses being advertised as riding horses but no photo of the horse saddled or video of horse being ridden. People who don’t know 15.8 HH isn’t a thing. And because I’m a grammar nerd, filly misspelled as philly and gelding misspelled as guilding or gilding. And while I know they must exist somewhere, a 3 yo stud advertised as kid safe.

Obviously I have issues…and this topic is especially timely since I’ve been looking for a paint gelding!


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Photos taken from the fence when the horse is in the pasture about 100 yards away.

This is my pet peeve as well and then they want $10+K for it. If you expect to sell your $10+K horse put up some decent pictures and a video.

I see these ads all the time. They usually start with "I post with a heavy heart" then go on about how they have a horse that is "too nice to just be sitting in a pasture". I call BS. Horses have no problem just sitting in a pasture. They are not standing around going "man, I wish I had a job to do right now". Just be honest and tell us why you are really selling the horse.

Rant over.

I'm not arguing with you, just thought I'd throw some insight on why I'd sell a horse that is just sitting.

Honestly, I don't want to feed a horse I'm not using. If someone can care for the horse and enjoy it rather than it sitting at my house- I think that's a win/win.

Some horses like a job. I know mine did. I've owned horses over the years that would become destructive to fences and pick on their pasture mates if they didn't have a job. Much like buying a high powered cow dog then keep them locked up with no outlet.

I'm not trying to come across as though I think horses are disposable. Stilts, even though he's basically retired, he can just sit in the pasture. That horse has given me his life and I owe him a cushy retirement and he's learning to enjoy it...lol

I sold Piggy last winter, she wasn't going to cut it as a cow horse but the girl that's college rodeoing off of her now absolutely adores her. I think that's a better fit than me trying to give her a "forever home" and turning her out not doing anything. Or thinking I'll put her in a different job when I know I won't so she sits then try to sell her. If that was the case, I probably would of said the same, "I'm not doing anything with her, too nice to sit".
The mare in a job that's better suited for her while making that girl happy and helping her fulfill her goals is better than my emotional attachment and looking at her in my pasture. I knew that and made a clean break rather than turning her out first while I figured out whether to sell or not.

I think you have to read into the ads. When I see, "too nice to sit", I don't necessarily see BS, I think the horse didn't fit their program or life changes(job change, divorce, etc.) Most times if you chit chat the seller, if they don't flat out tell you, they'll drop hints on why the horse is sitting in the pasture.

Just my two cents.

 

People standing on top of their horses in the ad's photos, like that means anything.

 

Right?! Like why? All you've proven is that you're an idiot.

 

Sometimes, when I'm having an incredibly hard day and feeling really bad about myself, I think about selling my horse and it's for exactly that reason. He IS such a nice horse with so much potential to do some really fun and cool things, and I only have myself to blame for not being equipped to get him there. While I know it's true that horses don't care if they're in work or not, with his youth, good health, flashy coloring and sweet temperament, it DOES feel like a huge waste for him to just sit in a pasture his whole life.

Anyway, to answer your actual question, I can't stand it when someone puts out an ad that's 5 paragraphs long describing the horse, but refuses to post a price! They'll only answer DMs, but then complain about all the people messaging them that aren't serious buyers. It drives me nuts. How are people supposed to know if the horse is within their budget if it's not posted anywhere? And how are they to blame for being flakey if the horse IS out of budget?

 

If they are posting on social media, it is against the rules to sell live animals. So they cannot put a price.

 

"No Tire Kickers" I think thats so stupid to put that in your ads, how in the heck are you going to know if this horse could be the one if you dont ask any questions about horse being sold, when you ask questions then you are a Tire kicker, if the horse is not what you are looking for.

 

This is my heart horse will only be sold to a approved home. So how will that work, when horse is sold to approved home and then that approved home that was approved decides to sell the horse then what, horse will get sold to who ever has the money.

 

A horse that is tacked up for the ad really annoys me. I always wonder what the tack is hiding and I could care less about the tack you want to show off🤠

That said, I’m too old to read for sale ads - in reality they all tiss me off😂😂

2. Yes @My Salty Pony who sells their “heart horse”. I’ve been privileged to have more than one. While there were times I really struggled, I found a way to hold onto them until their end times — and I was a single mom at one point.

It helps a lot to plan, pre-plan, post plan, and don’t buy the horse in the first place if one is already on a shoestring budget.

 

Same here @walkinthewalk, I have not sold a horse in 30 years, they just stay with me till their end. Back in my younger days I did sell a few that didnt work out for me and some I did regret selling and wish I had kept them for the rest of their lives, so now they stay with me no matter what, I have the land so that helps alot. I have been giving a few since I know the horses and they to will be here till its their time. I have had more then a few Heart horses threw my years and they have been with me till death.. Ok I'm getting all sappy now,

 

ANY horse labeled as "beginner safe". I'm sorry - city people who have just moved to the country and have never touched a horse in their lives will take that to mean the horse will be as easy to ride as a bicycle. NO horses are "beginner safe" when you take into consideration what a beginner might really be.

And then, labeling them as beginner safe makes owners of great horses feel they need to specify "not for beginners" in their ads - which makes reasonable people ask "what's not beginner safe about him?" and then people think something is wrong with the horse.

I have a gelding that's as broke as broke can be, but would never label him as "beginner safe" because beginners could start letting him get away with regular horse shenanigans and pretty soon he'd be walking off while they were trying to mount, and refusing to be caught, refusing to go where they steer him.....and they'd be calling me a liar. Or they might do something super stupid and make him buck.

 

There are so many 'beginner safe horses' around because they are old as dirt or so crippled that they just require a little maintenance of special shoes and feed ! But hey your kid can take a lesson on this 21 + yr old horse and go run barrels and poles !! SO MANY of those ads.

 

Another ad I've seen a lot of is people putting little kids/toddlers on the horse to "prove" how gentle and safe the horse is. Sorry but that doesn't really prove anything to me.

 

"Through no fault of his own..."
"Don't let his age fool you, he's got years of riding left in him..."
"Looking for a forever home for my 26 year old best friend...$4500"

 

You guys crack me up.....

In actuality, the more ridiculous the ad reads as the more I would be apt to go see the animal.
Most don't know what it is they have in their possession and underestimate what it can do with a good rider astride.
The more typos in the ad, the more intrigued I am..

I love the ads of idiots...😁
🐴...

 

I get annoyed at pictures where the horse is wearing a blanket and you can barely see the horse under it.

It bugs me when a picture is taken with a pretty young girl in the forefront smiling sweetly at the camera and if you look hard there probably is a horse back there somewhere. These ads usually say something like "loves to be loved on" Those ads I just skip over with the thought, which one is for sale anyway.

Another one is "wonderful, safe riding horse" and you see a picture of a horse standing in a stall and can only see the head.

I may be a bit cranky about pictures and I do realize that it is sometimes difficult to get good pictures when you are by yourself but a little time and planning will usually get some better pictures to show the horse properly.

the things I am interested in are sex of horse, age, height, breed, price some background and training with some pictures to illustrate these skills.

 

Sell the halter, horse included is often done.
Spelling out the words instead of numbers written..
Many say contact me, cause if what you read intrigued you, hearing someone gush about the animal might get it a bigger and better response.
Today there are sales groups on FB and prices are allowed in those ads.

One of my pet peeves is having a high dollar animal and sneaking advertising on a place like this. Placing random threads , stuffing them here and their just cheaped your horse and disbelief of what you make claims the animal can do in my mind.
If you have a high dollar animal, list it on those sites where it has best exposure...yes, spend a few dollars to present your animal to the largest audience you can and is appropriate.
Instead of attracting my attention, you actually attracted my disdain for you as the sales agent/seller I would not go out of my way to see any horse you are representing.
🐴...

 

My gelding is definitely happier now that he has a job. He needed mental stimulation and rules. He's still young and I think everyone at the barn is glad that I took him on as a project. The other people with horses in his pasture say he is a lot better now at respecting boundaries now, lol. But my mare has been perfectly happy being mostly a pasture pet for the past 7 years. She was a pretty good barrel horse in her younger years, but I don't feel like she is "wasted" being an expensive pasture pet and occasional trail horse. She enjoys it. I enjoy loving on her and braiding her hair. She's my baby, idk what else to tell you, lol. It really depends on the horse.

The problem is when people callously sell a horse that should be in retirement using that line, because in reality they don't want to pay for a horse they can't ride. I understand the predicament (even though I could never get rid of my retired mare), but I think you need to be honest about it and find a retirement facility or rescue to take them.

Sell the halter, horse included is often done.
Spelling out the words instead of numbers written..
Many say contact me, cause if what you read intrigued you, hearing someone gush about the animal might get it a bigger and better response.
Today there are sales groups on FB and prices are allowed in those ads.

In the sales group on FB I am in we refer to horses as lawnmowers. It is pretty funny.

 

This makes me think of the old internet joke that went around about horse sale ads, and what they really meant.

Kid's horse - only put 3 out of the last 5 in the hospital
Jumper - At the last rodeo he was clearing 6 feet!
Reiner - he'll turn left and right but you need a football field to get him stopped


Gosh I can't remember so many of them. But you get the idea.

 

A horse being shown in a video with someone shooting off it, waving flags around it, bouncing balls off it, etc etc, like it means the horse is going to be a dead broke steady eddy suitable for a beginner.

The hottest horses I’ve ever owned had no problems with any of those things.

 

Beautiful classic bay senior warmblood seeking forever home. I didn't actually mean to own a horse again, but here I am, like a sucker, paying more than half my mortgage in board, so she has to move on.

25 year old Oldenburg mare, but generally thick enough in places that, if you don't look at her snaggle teeth or lumpy bumpy joints, you can probably tell people she's 15. Usually tolerant of bouncing incompetent adult re-riders (ask me how I know) but might occasionally decide that a sunbeam or a ghost is a problem, and spin and trot off the other way, so possibly not for complete beginners. Also has a mean trip-and-cough, so core strength in her riders may be a necessity.

If you are looking for an in-your-pocket horse that will bond to you with a sweet, loving, puppy dog personality, please continue to look, as Elle will gladly ignore your entire existence for an appealing piece of grass. Prone to sulking in a corner after receiving medication, dewormer, or substandard treats.

May tolerate being stood upon, if someone holds her while you clamber up there, and you are willing to risk broken ankles if she gets bored with the whole production.

Used to be third level dressage, was schooling fourth, and will now reluctantly do all gaits with an audible sigh. Loves to jump, but might drop her head on landing so hard that you land even harder, so a dressage direction is probably most suitable. Maintenance required.

Much too lovely to be sitting in a pasture, though she would probably disagree. She is a German import that has cost anywhere from tens of thousands to a single dollar in her life, in previous sales, but I would like a house, a convertible Jaguar, and your soul in exchange for her. Non-negotiable -- I know what I've got -- with first right of refusal.

(I am of course NOT actually selling the big goon, and she's lovely 😍 but this ad contains no lies 😂 )

 

I knew I could find it, here ya go :

I believe most sellers do their best to represent their horses honestly, but since “full disclosure” is not a requirement of horse-trading, you can’t always be 100 percent certain you’re getting the whole story. Return policies rarely exist for quadrupeds, which makes the decision to buy even more daunting.

Buyers have personal laundry lists of the qualities they seek in a horse. Sellers utilize carefully curated terms and phrases to appeal to potential buyers. With a little imagination, it’s possible to make any horse sound awesome.

Now, you may very well be able to take any given ad narrative at face value.

But it will always behoove the buyer to beware of alternate meanings, such as those detailed below.

Great mind: continually inventing new ways to get out of work. Smart enough to limp when he hears the word “horse show” and stop when the vet’s truck pulls up.

Three ring horse: used to belong to the circus.

Great kid’s horse: assuming you’d like them to quit riding.

Recently imported: frankly, we were surprised when he showed up. That’s the last time we ride horses in Germany without an interpreter.

Eligible green: so far, we can’t get him to jump anything.

Fleabitten gray: haha, we’re actually being literal here. Has hives 90 percent of the time.

Responsive to aids: whatever you do, don’t touch him with your leg.

Comes out the same every day: resistant to all forms of training.

Adapts well to new environments: has been sold 17 times.

Great halt: although you never know where or when it will occur.

Impressive movement: can spook out from under you with lightning speed.

Walks the lines: maybe you can get him to trot or canter the lines; we couldn’t.

Equally useful in any ring: bad at everything.

Clips, ties, loads, stands: just don’t try to ride him.

Lots of horse show miles: needs five warm-up classes. Daily.

Careful: becomes a potted plant any time the ground changes texture, color, smell, look, feel or temperature.

Good ground manners: rarely runs away after he dumps you.

Same at horse shows as he is at home: you’ll hate him no matter where you are.

Vets and farriers love him: they should; his bills are putting their kids through college.

Always gets a piece of the hack: will bite any horse that comes near him.

Vet check welcome: we’re tired of writing the vet checks; we’d like you to do it from now on.

Never has time faults: usually eliminated before clock runs out.

Beautiful markings: the scars are actually sort of pretty.

Free jumps 5 feet: hope your pasture fence is higher than that.

Champion in first outing: did we mention his first outing was as a rodeo bronc?

Straightforward: he goes straight. He goes forward. Not at the same time.

No show prep needed: you won’t be showing him. Trust us.

You can ride him everywhere: we can’t get him in to the trailer.

Has lots of chrome: ate the grill off our dually. Twice.

Motivated seller: my husband said it was either him or my horses. Please buy this one so I can pay for the divorce.

Plenty of scope: you should see how high he can buck.

Point and shoot horse: looks great in photos.

Excellent lateral movement: spooks sideways.

Well-rounded education: failed at all disciplines.

Can go in any direction: literally. And without warning.

Clean X-rays: you will never get this horse to work hard enough to hurt himself.

Sweet personality: zero talent.

Ideal for first-time owners: If you had a clue, you’d run.

Moves off your leg: good luck getting him off your foot, though.

Flashy: mare constantly in heat.

Safe for anybody: lame at the walk.

Can be ridden bareback: you’ll never get near him with that girth.

Natural horsemanship training: nobody’s been able to shoe him or get a bit into his mouth, so we just went with it.

Doesn’t need shoes: all his farriers have given up.

Branded: we accidentally backed him into the grill at the barn barbeque.

Gets along well with other horses: it’s people he can’t stand.

Only lightly ridden: nobody can catch him.

Needs experienced rider: experienced in first aid and CPR, specifically.

Sometimes needs trainer rides: like, when you’re in the hospital.

Good amateur horse: will probably never be a serious horse.

Great front end: two of his feet point the same approximate direction.

Very agile: you’ll never get a halter on him.

Excellent pedigree: you would think he would have been good at something.

Great work ethic: needs to be ridden three hours every day.

Very athletic: can actually stop in the middle of a triple combination.

Seasoned show horse: he should be, seeing as he’s 35.

Schoolmaster: knows how to do everything. Won’t do any of it.

Fast out of the gate: better jump out of the way after you open one.

Uses his hind end well: has kicked through three trailers.

Always turns heads: because you just have to look at a train wreck.

Good reflexes at the jumps: can stop from anywhere.

Needs professional program: including a chiropractor, massage therapist, acupuncturist, horse communicator, and a variety of veterinary specialists, for starters.

Excellent conformation: well, at least he’s good looking.

From a competing forum... link not permitted.

 

One of my pet peeves is the photo of a bunch of near identical horses and the one for sale is apparently in the group someplace - you’re just never sure which one.

 

I see these ads all the time. They usually start with "I post with a heavy heart" then go on about how they have a horse that is "too nice to just be sitting in a pasture". I call BS. Horses have no problem just sitting in a pasture. They are not standing around going "man, I wish I had a job to do right now". Just be honest and tell us why you are really selling the horse.

Rant over.

What are the things that annoy you in horse for sale ads?

I agree with you to an extent. I think a lot of time people get all emotional about how they aren't measuring up to the horse's ability and probably never will and feel they're letting the horse down. Heck, I KNOW I'll never measure up to Patti's ability in dressage. She's far more able than I am. It's ok, she's just going to have it easy and show low levels with me. If the trainer works her up to higher levels and wants to take her up a few levels, that's fine but I'm under no illusions about where I will be able to go. As long as she and I can ride safely both in the arena and out on trail, nothing too advanced anymore, we're both good. Does she care? Heck no, as long as she gets attention and love from me, and her meals on time, she's a happy camper. And she will never be for sale.

Sigh….I have so many pet peeves. Photos taken from the fence when the horse is in the pasture about 100 yards away. Horses being advertised as riding horses but no photo of the horse saddled or video of horse being ridden. People who don’t know 15.8 HH isn’t a thing. And because I’m a grammar nerd, filly misspelled as philly and gelding misspelled as guilding or gilding. And while I know they must exist somewhere, a 3 yo stud advertised as kid safe.

Obviously I have issues…and this topic is especially timely since I’ve been looking for a paint gelding!

There are so many grammar and spelling and punctuation assist programs, it's really poor to advertise and not use any of them. I'm with ya on all the things that make reading painful. I'm a little more lenient on measuring mistakes, many folks in EU use 14.5 hh, meaning 14 1/2 hh in our way of writing. It's confusing, it'd be nice if we'd all use the same thing. Gilding, guilding, filly colt, feely colt, feely coat, stud colt, etc., etc. makes my hair stand on end. Any horse advertised as 'kid safe, husband safe, bomb prooof' is another hair raiser. I agree many horses are very calm by nature and have never been known to spook, rear, bolt, or put a foot wrong on trail. Say it that way, I'm way more likely to continue to read the ad than if you say it's XXXXXX safe.

People standing on top of their horses in the ad's photos, like that means anything.

I absolutely detest that. I'm not looking for a vaulting horse, have no intention of ever getting up on a horse on my feet. Nor do I intend to snap a bull whip off of him, standing or sitting. I don't care if you can wave a flag, shoot a gung or anything else off of him, you can do it off of any horse, ONCE. Not an interest of mine. Show me what he does out on trail, show me what he does in a dressage arena, on a working eq course. I don't care what a flat hatter does while standing on the saddle in cowboy boots with raised heels 🤐, or on it's butt, waving around a pistol or bull whip.

Sometimes, when I'm having an incredibly hard day and feeling really bad about myself, I think about selling my horse and it's for exactly that reason. He IS such a nice horse with so much potential to do some really fun and cool things, and I only have myself to blame for not being equipped to get him there. While I know it's true that horses don't care if they're in work or not, with his youth, good health, flashy coloring and sweet temperament, it DOES feel like a huge waste for him to just sit in a pasture his whole life.

Anyway, to answer your actual question, I can't stand it when someone puts out an ad that's 5 paragraphs long describing the horse, but refuses to post a price! They'll only answer DMs, but then complain about all the people messaging them that aren't serious buyers. It drives me nuts. How are people supposed to know if the horse is within their budget if it's not posted anywhere? And how are they to blame for being flakey if the horse IS out of budget?

I promise you that as long as you give that horse some lovin', feed him well, ride when you can, pay him lots of attention and don't mistreat him, he could care less about his potential potential or whether he's living up to it. His best potential is to have a human who loves him and to be able to be a horse.

As for posting prices, my fave way to communicate such on places that are dicey about it is to say the horse is asking 4,500 🥕🥕🥕 obo.

"No Tire Kickers" I think thats so stupid to put that in your ads, how in the heck are you going to know if this horse could be the one if you dont ask any questions about horse being sold, when you ask questions then you are a Tire kicker, if the horse is not what you are looking for.

LOL! I call 'em "Hoof Kickers" but yes, you gotta deal with them to get to the ones who are truly interested or as my trainer says, "You gotta get through the no's to get to the yes's.". Another reason why I have him handle my sales for me, I just don't have the patience any more.

Make sure you DEMAND that buyers provide a forever home!

Because we all know what's going to happen tomorrow, a week from now or next year, right?

ANY horse labeled as "beginner safe". I'm sorry - city people who have just moved to the country and have never touched a horse in their lives will take that to mean the horse will be as easy to ride as a bicycle. NO horses are "beginner safe" when you take into consideration what a beginner might really be.

And then, labeling them as beginner safe makes owners of great horses feel they need to specify "not for beginners" in their ads - which makes reasonable people ask "what's not beginner safe about him?" and then people think something is wrong with the horse.

I have a gelding that's as broke as broke can be, but would never label him as "beginner safe" because beginners could start letting him get away with regular horse shenanigans and pretty soon he'd be walking off while they were trying to mount, and refusing to be caught, refusing to go where they steer him.....and they'd be calling me a liar. Or they might do something super stupid and make him buck.

This is probably my biggest pet peeve. I made comments about this previously.

I was mainly pointing out that the seller is not, in fact providing a forever home themselves so it is a little hypocritical to require other people to do so.

And yes, the right of first refusal clause is often thrown around like it means something... now having said that, when I sold my mare, I did tell the buyers they could bring her back anytime for a full reimbursement. I know some would disagree with that because they could have ruined her and brought her back, demanding the full purchase price, but I would have done it. Just to save her from being abused further, or to save her from a home where the owners don't care for her or worse. But I never required them to return her, it was just out there as an offer because I always worried that she'd end up in the wrong hands due to her extreme anxiety.

Agree 100% with this.

I get annoyed at pictures where the horse is wearing a blanket and you can barely see the horse under it.

It bugs me when a picture is taken with a pretty young girl in the forefront smiling sweetly at the camera and if you look hard there probably is a horse back there somewhere. These ads usually say something like "loves to be loved on" Those ads I just skip over with the thought, which one is for sale anyway.

Another one is "wonderful, safe riding horse" and you see a picture of a horse standing in a stall and can only see the head.

I may be a bit cranky about pictures and I do realize that it is sometimes difficult to get good pictures when you are by yourself but a little time and planning will usually get some better pictures to show the horse properly.

the things I am interested in are sex of horse, age, height, breed, price some background and training with some pictures to illustrate these skills.

I agree 100%.

A horse being shown in a video with someone shooting off it, waving flags around it, bouncing balls off it, etc etc, like it means the horse is going to be a dead broke steady eddy suitable for a beginner.

The hottest horses I’ve ever owned had no problems with any of those things.

YES!

Someone mentioned putting up video of a horse. I will if the horse is $5K or over, otherwise it's too time consuming and costs too much to have the videographer out to do a video. I absolutely SUCK at doing videos myself, so unless the horse justifies the expense, I don't. That said, I will go out and shoot a quickie with my phone and let the prospective buyer know that I have no talent with this, if they are interested and far enough away that they wouldn't just jump in their car/truck and come see the horse anyhow. I'll refuse for a $2500 horse where the prospective buyer is 30 mins. away because by the time we haggle the price down, I pay the commission to my trainer, pay for the pics, ads, and all that, I'll be losing money on that deal. I'm better off inviting them to come see the horse and if they don't, they don't.

 

I know that all of these horses are out in the pasture talking about what a star they would be if only their owner wasn't holding them hostage behind a fence.

 

Our local ads are dismal. Not a horsey country.

Just now on offer “3 year old Lipizzaner stallion. Ridden, drives in a pair. Safe for children and beginners”

 

NEXT! I realize there are begiiner safe, 3 year old, stallions. I own one or well, I did, he's 12 now and it's a big reason why I would never have sold, never will sell him. Now when I say beginner and child safe, I mean he's safe for me to toss anybody up there and take them for a lead line ride. I would never send them off on him without me either walking or riding on another horse with a line in my hand leading him. That's just insanity. He's never put a foot wrong, I don't want to be asleep at the switch if he ever does.

 

@Zimalia22, those horse sale descriptions are great! I've also heard another I thought was funny:
Great Arena Horse (he bolts if you take him outside of it).

 

When they say 'in your pocket' - so horse has no sense of personal space?
When they say 'bombproof' no horse is 100% 'bombproof'. LOL.
When they say 'more woah than go' so he has holes in his training?

Must I go on? I have so many. LOL.

 

I had a mare who was more woah than go. Her training was fine, she was just super lazy. She'd be going along just fine, WTC, but if you even thought the word whoa, she'd drop that hind end and give you a cutting horse stop that would sink you down 3 feet. Her favorite word in the English language right after, "Dinner Time" was Whoa.

 

Big red flag to me when dealers advertise each and every horse they sell as "beginner safe, grandma safe". Every. single. one.

 

I had a giggle over how well some of these fit my Diva mare, Patti.

Has lots of chrome: ate the grill off our dually. Twice.
She actually licked the red paint off my husband's Saab 900 Turbo, right after he got it. What he gets for leaving it out back when the horses were loose.

Moves off leg: good luck getting him off your foot, though.
We've had a couple of these. She used to be really bad about walking on me feet more than I did.

Gets along well with other horses: it’s people he can’t stand.
She actually loves people, it's other horses she occassionally tries to kill. When Patti gets the a** for somebody, you better find another pasture for them. She holds severe grudges.

Great work ethic: needs to be ridden three hours every day.
OK, this one's Cloney, he's got some GO and stamina. LOL! He's always under control but he just likes to go.