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Hi!

Lets share our tips about rearing shall we? And what you should never do when a horse rears.

While i am at it, can you give me some tips when my horse rears? He doe's it a-lot when he is bored...

Thanks! :)
 

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Horses don't rear because they are bored. they rear because they are confused and you are putting too much pressure on them. Get thier feet freed up and get them bending thier face, neck and body and the problem of rearing will go away.
 

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What kevinshorses said. ^^^^^

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Rearing is a primarily a disobedience of not going forward. Chronic rearing is common in lazy or sour horses that do not want to move forward off the rider's leg or who have learned it's an effective technique to avoid work or situations that they find unpleasant.

However, it is not something to be messed around with. The potential for the horse miscalculating and falling/flipping over or the rider being unbalanced and pulling the horse over are both high. Get some professional help with the horse, or if that is not an option, post a video of the horse under saddle.
 

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I would geuss she's saying what people have told her, that he's bored. Sometimes with a chronic rearer there really isn't always a "reason" for him to rear. I have a chronic rearer. He rears when he doesn't want to work, when he's done with his trail ride and wants to go home, when I've been standing too long and he wants to get put away, He'll even rear when I'm on the ground with him. For the most part it's disobedience as Kevin says. With mine there is no pain and definitely no fear, I've had the horse for almost 23 years. I have never been able to "cure" his rearing. The one thing I have never tried, and will never try, is to flip him over. I don't believe in that.

My suggestion is first to rule out any pain. Make sure your saddle fits correctly and that you don't have any teeth issues. Now, I am assuming you've ruled out fear because you are saying that the horse is "bored". Which means he's not afraid. That makes me think you are dealing with a disobedient horse. He can be a kind and loving horse and still be disobedient...

With rearing you first need to learn to "feel" the rear before it comes. You'll feel it in the shoulders, there will be a tensing, or a bunching of the shoulders just before he go's up. BEFORE he go's up you need to move him forward. If he's moving forward, he can't go up. So keeping him moving. If you miss the sign and he pops the rear then you can yank the rein quickly to the right or left to knock him off balance, he'll throw his feet down, the instant his feet hit the ground you've got to kick him forward. If you don't get him moving forward then you'll end up in another rear. You can pop him in the head between the ears but the thing with that is, you HAVE to do it on the UPWARD motion. If you do it on the way down it has no effect. The thought behind a pop between the ears in mid-rear is that the horse thinks it's hit it's head, if you don't time it right then it doesn't work.

you can use a tie down but that won't fix the problem. I've got many other things that I've done but to be honost, my horse is 25, almost 26 and will still rear.
 

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Horses want to get along with us they don't disobey because they don't want to do what we are asking. Most of the time they just aren't understanding what they are being ask or they have not had an appropriate release for doing what we want so they have given up. Rearing is the horse equivalent of screaming and flailing your arms in panic. A horse doesn't want to rear but they feel like they need to do something and they don't know what else to do.

If everybody is telling you he is dealing with being bored by rearing then they are wrong and painfully ignorant of how a horse thinks. If you get your horse to disengage his hindend from the ground and in the saddle and get lateral and vertical flexion then there will be very little rearing and bucking. You don't have to chase your horse around a pen with a 50 dollar stick to fix these things either. You need to be able to move your horses feet around and break the pattern in his mind that causes a rear.
 

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I didn't say "nothing" about a $50 stick... My horse rears rather then buck. I think it takes less effort for him....
 

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I definitely see what farmpony means, some horses seem to see rearing as something similar to bucking and sometimes will do it out of disrespect (in that at that moment he is not seeing you as his leader, not that he is trying to "get under your skin" because that is obviously not how horses think)
My horse has never reared undersaddle, at least not with me, but on the ground when I am working with him he will occasionally rear (though not a full totally vertical rear as usually seen done in fear..but still pretty high up there) and he does it as an act of dominance and stops when I regain his respect.

Anyway, just thought I'd toss in my two cents, off I go. =)
 

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I didn't say "nothing" about a $50 stick... My horse rears rather then buck. I think it takes less effort for him....
I hope you didn't thing anything in my post was directed at you because it wasn't.
 

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100% ditto

Horses want to get along with us they don't disobey because they don't want to do what we are asking. Most of the time they just aren't understanding what they are being ask or they have not had an appropriate release for doing what we want so they have given up. Rearing is the horse equivalent of screaming and flailing your arms in panic. A horse doesn't want to rear but they feel like they need to do something and they don't know what else to do.

If everybody is telling you he is dealing with being bored by rearing then they are wrong and painfully ignorant of how a horse thinks. If you get your horse to disengage his hindend from the ground and in the saddle and get lateral and vertical flexion then there will be very little rearing and bucking. You don't have to chase your horse around a pen with a 50 dollar stick to fix these things either. You need to be able to move your horses feet around and break the pattern in his mind that causes a rear.
 

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I bought a Paint mare once who came with an older gelding and she was so buddy sour that she wouldn't leave the property and would rear. I took it as her way of "throwing a temper tantrum." She scared me really bad and I just couldn't live with the behavior.

I had another horse (an Arabian) who would do small rears and "airs above ground" but it was just exuberance and feeling spirited. That didn't bother me and I rode him and loved him until the day he died.

I guess to me it matters if the horse is doing it to intimidate me (I feel the first horse was) or if they just have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and can't keep their feet in one place (the Arabian).
 

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Thanks everyone for the posts...

He doesn't do it that often, but he still doe's it. He IS part Arabian i must say. The people who ride with me say it is boredom, and i agree with kevinhorses for the most part. He's saddle doe's it propally, i got it checked, i am just starting to think he doe's it because of high spirits...
 

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I hope you didn't thing anything in my post was directed at you because it wasn't.
I actually DID think you were picking on me!:oops: I have gotten to where I always start my statements by ruling out fear and pain because if I don't I get in trouble with some of the NH folks. You see, to me, ruling things like fear and pain out are common sense...

Can you eat a carrot stick?
 

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Soda rears on occaision or at least he did a couple times last year. For him its more of a "I want to go faster but I can't so I'll go up" and it always happens (happened) when we were on the way home and he wanted to go significantly faster than I did (I very rarely go above a walk on the way home). Still it's a frustration thing, so I've tried to deal with it by removing the reason he is frustrated. Or at least teaching him that there are better ways to deal with it.

When I feel him getting ready to rear I immediately ask him to move his hind end (pivot) which puts weight ON his front end so he cannot rear. I think it helps because it gets him thinking/doing something other than rearing and it gets his attention back on me. This is a split second thing literally the second I feel him starting to bunch up. I practiced this in a safe area before taking it out on a trail. Also, I incorporated other strategies to deal with the barn sour attitude and to teach him that walking home on a loose rein is the quickest way to get there.

Last thing. When I'm on a horse that rears I don't try to do anything when their up in the air. My first instinct (since my first rear 15 or so years ago) is to lean forward and my hands go up their neck. I don't put any pressure on the reins or backwards with my body. Other people may have better ways to ride out a rear, but that's always worked for me.
 

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Some horses do end up rearing to get out of work if the situation is handled in a certain manner. Sure, it never starts out that way. I agree with kevinshorses that horses rear the first time 100% out of panic or confusion. BUT, if the person riding them gets off immediately and walks them back to the barn because they're scared to get back on - the horse may associate rearing with getting to go back to the barn and not having to work, and then it becomes a habit. Most likely that confusion is still there, but at a certain point the rearing may not even be triggered by a confusing cue from the rider anymore. I've known a few horses that were like this. But yes, most horses who rear are confused or panicked.
 

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Why do Arabians always get blamed for bad behavior? It's not his fault he's smarter then his rider! :-|

When a horse rears, you essentially want to stay as still as possible. Bring your hands forward on his neck, and stay close to his body. If a horse gets to the point where he's actually going up on me, I wait for his front hooves to brush the ground before I clobber his backend. Unless you're riding a confirmed man-killer, all horses will leap forward. A forward moving horse cannot rear. Hence, why I very rarely ever find myself on rearers, but if they manage to get up, this is the action I take as they come down to reprimand and move them forward.

Don't ever try cracking eggs on his head or smacking him on the head. Regardless of how many times this HAS worked, there are probably equal number of times the horse has come close to killing his rider when he freaks and goes over backwards that we never hear about.
 

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Why do Arabians always get blamed for bad behavior? It's not his fault he's smarter then his rider! :-|

When a horse rears, you essentially want to stay as still as possible. Bring your hands forward on his neck, and stay close to his body. If a horse gets to the point where he's actually going up on me, I wait for his front hooves to brush the ground before I clobber his backend. Unless you're riding a confirmed man-killer, all horses will leap forward. A forward moving horse cannot rear. Hence, why I very rarely ever find myself on rearers, but if they manage to get up, this is the action I take as they come down to reprimand and move them forward.

Don't ever try cracking eggs on his head or smacking him on the head. Regardless of how many times this HAS worked, there are probably equal number of times the horse has come close to killing his rider when he freaks and goes over backwards that we never hear about.
Don't worry - i don't smack him or anything... Umm I'm pretty smart by the way!:p I know he doesn't mean it or anything but yeah i only came here for help cos of what others were saying, i don't particulary want to get bashed...
 
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