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Hi all! Would love to hear some suggestions, as I've exhausted a lot of my knowledge and resources. ............ Problem: A horse who has trailered before, now once she's half on rears backward violently and hits her head on the top edge of the door. She's done it twice now severely, once requiring 12 stitches. I'm very worried about her doing further damage to herself, one because I love her, and two because I want to show her and obviously do not want her to have a mangled face..................... What I've tried: 1) Asking her to go in, if she refuses, I go work her away from the trailer for several minutes to show her the trailer is a rest. Can do this for hours and hours on end with no progress. 2) Working her around the trailer, then showing her inside is the rest. 3) Asking for only a step at a time and giving reward when she does so. This works until she's half in, then she explodes and hits herself or just narrowly avoids hitting herself if I'm lucky............... She will happily go half in, but as soon as she gets her hind feet about to go in, she very violently rears backward and hits herself. If she were just rushing backward I could work through that, but it's twice now she's hit her head badly, as she's throwing it up very high and hitting it as she almost falls over backward coming out. She hasn't seemed to 'learn' not to hit herself, either...................... The trailer is a nearly new, bright, open, 3 horse slant that is fully opened for her to go in. It is not a 'scary trailer'........... I want to be able to work through this issue, but it's so dangerous what she's doing that I can't allow this behaviour to keep happening or she's going to do something very serious/permanent to herself................. Would love to hear some suggestions! Sorry for bad formatting, not sure how to change it. I'm new. Cheers.
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I really can't help you work through this dangerous issue because it is far beyond my expertise (I'm still trying to coax a formerly easy-to-trailer horse into a horse trailer myself), but I would start by getting her one of these:

Cashel Horse Helmet | Adams Horse Supplies

Does she ever rear at any other time? This sounds like a very scary situation. Maybe time to bring in a trainer to help you before she kills herself. Unfortunately, that has happened.
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Can you park the trailer in her paddock/field and leave it open? Maybe even feed near it and slowly day by day move the food inside until the trailer is not a big deal to her?
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Can you park the trailer in her paddock/field and leave it open? Maybe even feed near it and slowly day by day move the food inside until the trailer is not a big deal to her?
If you do park the trailer in a paddock be sure it is very very fastened to the ground. Chock the wheels. When I did this my husband sank some rebar and fastened the tow bar to them.
Work her on giving to pressure, away from the trailer, so throwing her head, pulling back,in essence, moving into pressure is fixed.
Have you trailered her before, without issues,and is this a new behavior, or, did she trailer for someone else, with perhaps not full disclosure?
Have you hauled her in this trailer? Did she have a trailer wreak?
Other then that, a problem loading a horse, trailering a horse , is a leading problem, a problem with respect or trust,a horse not 100% on giving to pressure.
if ahorse truly gives to pressure, has that respect and trust, he does not question as to where he will or will not lead or go, when asked
They have safety helmets for horses that throw their heads up, they fasten to the top of the halter, I would get one of those so she doesn't injure her head so badly.

Is there any pressure from the lead rope as she starts to rear back? If so this may be what is making her rear.

There's a video by John Lyons on teaching a horse to load. I got it and found it very good and informative. It shows a horse self loading, you don't say if you are going into the trailer ahead of her but maybe try her on self loading and take your time and let her back out when she wants, don't try to stop her. This is all in the video so you can see how it works.
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Have you hauled her in this trailer before?
She is wearing a pole cap helmet, but she flings out so badly with her nostrils tilted straight up and sometimes sideways that she actually sliced horizontally down her nose the 2nd time.

She's been in this trailer before, and all other trailering experiences have been minimal and without accidents. When I picked her up from who started her she was perfect and when I took her to a new barn 2 years ago she loaded perfectly, with no trailer training in between. It's just been this year when she's ready to show that she's developed this issue.

I have worked on leading a lot over the last month (since the first accident) and I feel I've made some progress... where she's soft to go forward and back. She'll go over bridges, water, poles, tarps, whatever, with ease. She'll even load half in the trailer without much fuss, but as soon as her hind end is close to being in, she has the big reaction. And as we all know, there isn't much you can do to stop a rearing back horse.

Other than building some sort of very strong full face plate, and 'working her through the issue' by allowing her to smash herself and see that's not the right answer, I'm really stuck. Because normally I would just work through an issue with patience and reward, but when she smashes herself so badly that I have to call the vet out to stitch her out, I can't really proceed.
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Wow, I didn't realize she was already wearing a cap and slicing her nose! I hope someone can help you out, but honestly, it sounds like this is a job for a professional trainer.
What came to my mind as I was reading is: I don't know what your riding discipline is but is it possible (since this just showed up this year) that she has developed an injury/ailment of some sort that causes pain when she gets in a certain physical position which in your case is part way in the trailer and thus reacts negatively?
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For a horse like this, I'd change things up to try to avoid her fear trigger. Meaning, instead of trying to lead her into the trailer - which she associates with bad experiences, I'd work on getting her to load without being led and with the handler behind to one side and not in front of her. She should be allowed to decide when it is safe, and feel free to get out without any pressure.

The other thing I would do to make things different is make the trailer entrance flat with the ground. You could use a natural hill or get some gravel, or build something with wood. The idea is to make the horse step up to the level of the trailer while out in the open rather than when in the opening where she could hurt herself. Then it would be a straight walk into the trailer from farther away. Once comfortable with this, you could wean her off by making the entrance area shorter and shorter or the ramp up steeper until it finally is your actual step or ramp. Gravel would probably be easiest to do this with.

A load of gravel costs a bit, but is cheaper than continuing vet bills.

Then I'd work her toward the trailer with low pressure, with a very loose lead allowing her to leave whenever she wants to. I'd keep working her back into the vicinity by having her stand calmly, but only moving her toward the trailer with a small crop and light mental driving pressure. For some horses you might just raise the crop to get a step, or you might tap her to get her to walk forward. If she doesn't know how to do this already, you might have to practice. But always let her head be loose and allow her to avoid the trailer if she wishes. I'd focus much more on getting out than in, because they say training a horse to load is really about training a horse to unload without nervousness. Once a horse is comfortable unloading easily and freely, they will feel safe to load.

So I'd work on letting her practice backing out over and over rather than focusing on getting her into or keeping her in the trailer. It might feel like you are allowing her to leave rather than making her go in the trailer, but really you're convincing her she can escape at any time rather than get trapped and injured.
Probably this process would be something to work on over a few days or even longer in short sessions rather than trying to do it in a couple of days.

My guess is that this issue is related to anxiety about either the step up or ramp, and feeling fear of slipping or being unable to get out safely. So the biggest work will be having her feel safe going backward to get out.
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I feel like I am among the few on this forum that would suggest going to more "natural horsemanship" route, and begin teaching her to "send" places, and ultimately be able to send her into the trailer, like in this video:
. I am a strong believer in not having to enter the trailer while loading your horse, and after teaching all three of my horses to load like this, I have yet to have them refuse loading in any trailer. I grew up having slant load trailers available, so it was truly easy to walk in with my horse, but my friend got a straight load trailer without a way to physically walk the horse in - thus the sending method comes in handy. My horse was awful at trailering for months before I taught him how to send into a trailer, and it truly has been a lifesaver many times. If you aren't confident teaching this, get a trainer, you'll thank yourself in the long run.
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The first thing I would do is check the trailer for wasps/bees. As far as training, try walking her over obstacles, especially a pallet with a rubber mat attached to the top. Later you could add sides to simulate walking in to a trailer. Then park the trailer with the doors making up a section of a round pen if you have one available. Send her around the pen and release all pressure when she is near the trailer. Eventually you will keep the pressure on until she puts just her head in, then release. Then one foot and release. Keep it up until she can load herself.
Whether you send a horse into a trailer, or lead him in, depends on type of trailer
Stacy is sending her horse into a two horse straight load, which is logical
My trailer is a three horse angle haul, googeneck, no dividers.
I lead my horses in, because they are tied, with safely quick release set up, so it makes zero sense to send them in.
I would forget about loading this horse at the moment. I would spend time having her just stand tied, time getting 100% respect on giving to pressure.
|The obstacle is not the obstacle'
Personally, I have no use for ramps. Horses can step up into trailers just fine
Right now, she has been allowed to develop a phobia with getting into a trailer,so working her away from the trailer, filling holes, makes sense to me
It si surprising as to how,many people think a horse is solid at leading, and they are, as long as you don't ask them to lead where they rather would not
I think I related this story before. We got two mare in to be bred, and one we had bred two years before. They were said to 'just love people',. Well, they did, walking all over them when led, trying to charge ahead,w hen they were going in a direction they wanted to go in.
When it was time for them to go home, the mother had sent her son to pick them up, as he had an interview at the local college.
As I was making supper, I watched out the window as he tried to load those old gals, trying first one, and then the other.
They would lead up tot he trailer, then instead of loading, dragged that young man away.
Finally, I could not stand watching any longer. They obviously had been trailered to our place, and the older mare had been trailered to our place more then once
I went out, took mare number one away from the trailer, ran a stud shank under her chin, and gave her a lesson in leading with respect.
I then attached an ordinary lead shank back on, and she loaded without missing a beat. Ditto for mare number 2
I am not saying this is the right technique all the time, as you have to know the horse, but it does show where a hrose can act like it is afraid to load, learning it can refuse, and then it just snow balls from there, with that trailer then having a bad association, for no real reason beyond the horse recalls some negative association with it
That is why I continue to believe , that you fix the true problem away from the trailer
In over 30 years of raising horses, we never taught horses to load. First time many of those hroses were trailered, was when they went to their first show, trail ride, or were sold. All loaded just fine because they truly led with respect, gave to pressure 100%
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Okay, now I got my answer, don't haul her in a straight haul trailer, it's brutal on her. To rehabilitate this horse to loading and hauling again, use an open stock trailer and let her ride how she wants. She has to know it won't hurt her. I would get one with a gate that closes the front half from the back half and let her have the front half and don't tie her.
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waresbear, that video is not the OPs trailer. She states hers is a three horse slant load, very open
I would suggest that if it has dividers, take them ouT!
Thanks Smilie, I am getting old and confused, mixing this up with another thread, sheesh. Sorry OP.
What came to my mind as I was reading is: I don't know what your riding discipline is but is it possible (since this just showed up this year) that she has developed an injury/ailment of some sort that causes pain when she gets in a certain physical position which in your case is part way in the trailer and thus reacts negatively?
I was wondering the same thing.

OP, can you build a raised platform that is trailer high and wide+long enough for her to stand on? I'm thinking the act of lifting those back legs might give her pain somewhere. The platform might help rule out some things or give a safer place to practice.
iT sounds like the horse rears, then runs out backwards, thus putting weight on the rear .
If the hrose is being hauled to shows, clinics ect, I just assume that there is no soundness issues
Still have not heard from the OP as to whether she hauled her before, and with that trailer,or, the horse was just hauled to her place, with seller perhaps having had trouble loading her
"has trailered before', is kinda nebulous to me. Those two mares I posted about, also had trailered before,LOl
perhaps if the OP gives better details, concerning her past trailer experience, it will be easier perhaps give advise, knowing if her blow ups are new, whether she trailered,loaded well before, and if so, same trailer. Does this trailer have dividers in it?
Some horses really get freaked, needing to turn into those 'stalls', and once in, feel trapped
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I was called in to help with a horse that does this. He would run back when halfway in and bash his head. He would also do it when unloading.simple answer was to put a surcingle on him with a lead rope from the surcingle to the halter, and make a simple tie down very short so the horse is overbent.
Once the horse was inside, and the back closed, a straight two horse trailer no partition, the rope could be unclipped for travelling and clipped back to unload.

His problems stemmed from unloading him when he raised his head getting off the trailer then he would have his head to high loading and started to rear.
A few times of this and he was fine.
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