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I finally got my cart yesterday and harness but really do not have anyone to show me the right way to hook it up. I know she is too close to the back so I'm thinking I got the side suspension goofy. She was only in it for the pictures. Do anyone have any close up pictures of this kind of harness that could help me better see where to hook them up and how. Really want to get practicing short trip but want to have her set up right.

 

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It's a bit fuzzy and hard to see, but it looks to me like your shafts are low. Granted, it's an EE cart with low/standard wheels so those shafts are going to tip no matter what.

I'm trying to look at your picture and see if the tugs are actually being pulled towards the back end of your horse (it looks like there's two straps that make a sort of a triangle on your horse's barrel but it's hard to tell due to picture quality) What kind of girth rigging have you got? Overgirth or wrap strap?

I'd also try moving your hip strap forward. What brand of harness do you have?
 

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That's a pretty, snowy picture. Subbing, as I want to hear what all the smart harnessy people have to say.
 

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I will hitch her up again today but not move and take a bunch of pictures for you guys, I may very well have it really really really wrong but thats what I need to know. Really wish I had some one I knew locally to show me what to do with this :( I tried finding some videos of it but youtube keeps crashing our computer -.-
 

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Fox Ridge ranch The one thing I can say is you have a great horse! :lol::lol:

You have adjustment issues with your cart.
I can help you to a point hooking up your horse and adjusting you harness. You are in the middle of midwest driving USA. It would be best to join a club or find a mentor to help you with the finer points of harnessing and driving.

Every adjustment on a harness affects other adjustments so it is a bit of a complicated process.

SO THAT SAID: This will probably be several posts with you adjusting then taking photos. posting, then adjusting again. So if you are up to this so am I.

My main question is why do you not have a bridle? Are you planning on driving in a halter? I would not recommend this, as this is highly dangerous, and it is not IF but WHEN a serious problem will occur.

In the American Driving Society rulebook, is says ..Removal of the bridle while the horse is still hooked to the vehicle, the driver will be eliminated from any event and in some instances be asked to leave the property. I am paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

So back to your harness;

#1 Put on a bridle! Blinkers or not, Put on a bridle. At all times while harnessed and while harnessing have a bridle on, I can't stress this enough.

#2 You horse is too far back in the shafts. The shafts are supposed to end at the point of the shoulder. Reason, shafts lto far forward will hit the horse in the face/head or neck when the horse turns, causing discomfort and counterbending, a no=no. And his rear end is too close to the cart.

Properly adjusted shafts at the point of the shoulder.

Horse harness Bridle Rein Horse tack Halter

This photo the shafts are to far forward.

Bridle Horse tack Halter Rein Horse

I put the cart up to the horse, put the shafts to to the shoulder the attach the traces. If the traces are to short figure out how to make them longer or buy longer ones. There is no negotiation here. Shafts can be a bit short but not a bit long.

This will bring your horse's rear end further away from the cart. Where he is now, there is no way his hind legs wont hit the cart, causing all but the oldest and kindest soles to kick. and you can't blame a horse for kicking if every time he takes a step his hocks hit the cart..

There are several more adjustments to make then maybe you can implement those adjustments, take a photo and then we will see what other adjustments need to be made.
I will try and post again this afternoon, I am having company this evening and need to clean house.
I just wanted you to know I will give you a hand.
 

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I just read your other post and it was very helpful: http://www.horseforum.com/driving/need-close-up-pic-please-349506/

The bridle I couldn't figure out and was really bothering her mostly the blinkers and the straps that crisscross her face don't actually crisscross but went straight over her eyes. I'll bring the bridle in really quick and get some pictures of what I'm talking about.
 

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I jumped the gun by talking about hitching and shafts first thing. You need to get your harness fitted properly first. Yours looks preytty good but I would shorten you backStrap, (what goes between the saddle and the crupper (what goes under the tail )). Try and get the hip strap, (strap that goes up and over the hip and holds up the breeching) as close to the top of the hip as possible. To do this you need to shorten the back strap, then probably lengthen the crupper straps. There is some wiggle room here but get it as close as possible. There might also be different slots that you can have the hip strap go through the back strap.

Clear as mud, right?

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I got the bridle sorted out!! YAY even while she was trying to eat her breakfast no less. I'm going to tackle the harness here in a few mins just letting her finish up eating. I was having a hard time figuring out what straps connected to the cart and where earlier. there is a ring on the bottom of both shafts what is that little guy for?

This is the cart i have

 

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I got a cob size: Tough 1 Basic Nylon Driving Harness - Statelinetack.com

I was told it would probably be the best bet for a starter for her since she is only 14.1 at most.
Well shucks, wish I'd known you were shopping for a harness else I'd have recommended the Liberty nylon harness from Ron's/Amber Hillside. It's slightly more expensive (mine was $200 shipping included) but is a better quality harness with a real tree,etc. I used mine for a year before upgrading and it's now my spare/ train the mare set.
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Also, the criss cross straps on the bridle (and looking at google images) sound like over check straps and you really won't need them.
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With the bridle, make sure the blinkers are in the middle of the eye and stand out from the eye, no touching of the eyelashes. The noseband should sit about 3/4 to an inch below the bony protrusion on the side of the face. there should be plenty of ear room and the browband should not stick out to far from the head. The throat latch should not be so tight that he horse can't flex byt not so loose that the bridle can slip off the head.
 

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OK pictures!! The shafts are still toooo far forward but I think I got it alittle more straightened out. The hip strap may need to com alittle further forward. Lemme know what you think, where and what to adjust.







Still not sure what do to with this strap as its very slack...



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This last pcitre I think this strap is very short, its whats holding her to the cart.
 

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Raise the breast collar. tighten the rear buckle one and the front buckle two,
Harness should be even on both sides.

Raise Tugs, What holds the shafts up, 4 or 5 buckles. They should follow the line your traces make from the breast collar to the cart.

Raise your breeching two holes on all buckles.
Loosen t Throat latch one buckle on each side.
Eventually you will get rid of the overcheck and get a real noseband. Try and find one.

Thats a start
 

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Can you get a close up picture of the tugs without the shafts in them? For some reason, I'm thinking they look like just loops of nylon, and can't figure out if you have an over girth or a wrap strap girth. What's all the excess nylon strappage in that close up shot of the girth

I've always looped my holdbacks a few times. I usually leave them on the cart and have the alligator snaps to clip them to the rings on the breeching.
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