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It looks like it probably fits pretty well. It is a little too far forward, needs to come back an inch or two. It looks like the seat and panels are rising uphill toward the withers, but it appears that if you pull it back a little it will then sit level while still having the panels at the rear contact the back. The way it is placed currently, the rider's weight will go to the back of the saddle rather than being distributed evenly over the panels.

The saddle is a very close fit, so a person would have to be careful to use a thin pad underneath. You could disrupt the fit easily by adding a thick pad or half pad or anything with risers/shims at the front or back. I'd also make sure any pad was pulled up into the gullet so it didn't cinch down over the spine during the ride and cause pressure.
 

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^What she said! And the pic from behind makes it - or the horse - look a bit uneven but quite probably just the pic angle.
Agree. Since the horse's side also looks narrower on the left, I was thinking it may just be the camera angle rather than uneven panels.
 

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Maybe the saddle is a bit to forward but I don't think it that great a fit by these photos.
The cantle stuffed panels are uneven in looks = sitting awkward to the back.
From the side the saddle to me appears bridging under where the leg would lie.
Sitting so high because it is to forward is one thing, but then to me appears once rocked into proper position it is going to fall onto the wither and really throw off the fit, balance and align.
I would like to see the saddle properly placed and girth fit to see the "real" and actual fit take shape not a illustration of fit of loose saddle poised on a back...big difference as you all know.
This is a used saddle, not new and the fit is already going to be made from the previous horses anatomy shaped so much as did the riders anatomy and how they "sat".

Sorry, not convinced here.
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OK I lead him around and let his shoulders kind of shove it where it should sit then took these photos...
He is not ridden often, and just needs something that he can walk down the trail in maybe once a month. (Not meaning that he shouldn't be comfortable yet, just that he isn't working 5 days a week in this saddle.) Having no other second set of eyes around here I appreciate your thoughts. Unless anyone sees anything glaring wrong that I am not noticing I think for the limited riding he does I might just adopt this one for his use. It will need reflocking, one of the pannels feels slightly more full and I'm sure its been years.






Can anyone help figure out what direction to go in searching for a saddle for this mare? While I was trying, I set the saddle on her. She actually takes a more narrow western saddle than he does but setting this saddle on her am I correct in thinking this is to NARROW for her? (obviously fits horribly) This is a Cliff Barnsby 5, so Wide. Not sure what to look for for her.


 

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Yes, I like the fit on the gelding and the panels look more even in the latest pictures. It was a trick of the camera angle that made them look so uneven. If you have it reflocked make sure they don't overstuff the panels or you will lose the good fit.

For the mare, she definitely needs a wider saddle. It makes me wonder if the western saddle really fits her if it has a narrower tree than for the other horse.

Barnsby saddles have an A frame tree rather than a U (hoop) tree, and their #5 which is supposedly an XW is barely a Wide in other brands. Many of the traditional english brands are this way, made more with the thought of TBs in mind rather than truly wide horses.

The mare looks like she has a flat, wide back and the panels are too curved at the back for her. I'd go for something like a Lovatt and Ricketts or Black Country with a wide tree. They have U trees.
 

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Yes, I like the fit on the gelding and the panels look more even in the latest pictures. It was a trick of the camera angle that made them look so uneven. If you have it reflocked make sure they don't overstuff the panels or you will lose the good fit.

For the mare, she definitely needs a wider saddle. It makes me wonder if the western saddle really fits her if it has a narrower tree than for the other horse.

Barnsby saddles have an A frame tree rather than a U (hoop) tree, and their #5 which is supposedly an XW is barely a Wide in other brands. Many of the traditional english brands are this way, made more with the thought of TBs in mind rather than truly wide horses.

The mare looks like she has a flat, wide back and the panels are too curved at the back for her. I'd go for something like a Lovatt and Ricketts or Black Country with a wide tree. They have U trees.
Thank-you! OH I'm so glad that the Barnsby seems like it'll do. I think so.

I will look for those you mentioned for the mare. Hoping to stay under $800 so it'll take some watching. I did not realize that Barnsbys run narrow. That makes since as he is a MW sized guy typically.

I think these are a U tree, think this is worth a shot??? (Link)

This is her current western saddle. 7.5" gullet FQH Billy Cook. It should be a 14" or 15", its a 16 and to long. I've been watching for the same saddle to come up for sale but haven't found it yet. I bought it online and was told it was 15", neither me nor my short back stout little FQHs need the extra inch I found it to be upon arrival but otherwise two mares use the saddle for now. Now I'm in the market for a dressage saddle that they can share as well.



 

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A 7.5 inch gullet is pretty wide, and from just those pictures the western saddle looks fine for her.

The Duett saddles are good for wide horses, but I will warn you I bought one and it fit my horse fine but the twist was too wide for me and it was uncomfortable so I sold it on. I've heard the Thorowgoods can be a good cheaper option, but I've never ridden in one myself.
 
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