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hi guys,

i was checking over Pumpkin today and i noticed huge soft inflamed lumps under his skin. They don't irritate him when felt over, but he is rolling a lot. They are all over his shoulders, neck and a large one on his stomache.
Could anyone give me an idea of what they might be and what to do about it??
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Is he pastured? Some times horses will find something that irritates their skin and roll in it. My horse does occasionally in the summer. After a day or two the swelling goes down and he is fine. But I can't say for sure that is what it is. I would call your vet if they do not improve in a day or two.
 

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^^Agreed. It could be a newly developed allergy or even some form of infection. I would give it 2 days max before calling the vet.
 

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cool thanxs guys. yes, he is pastured. i checked him while he was eating this morning and they seem to have gone down a tad bit. i will call the vet if they haven't gone down by 2 days.
 

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no, he is with no other horses. it is only him
 

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it sounds like hives and could be something in the air, a plant in the pasture, something he's eating or rolling in. They usually go down by themselves.
 

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If they look something like this, they are hives:
JT second lesson 010110 :: JTHives1.jpg picture by knaskedov - Photobucket

After 3 weeks of trying everything I could think of, moving him to a different stall, taking away the alfalfa, taking away the bermuda, taking away the wheat germ oil, taking away the pellets (not all at the same time of course) and antihistamines, I finally gave in and picked up steroids at the vet's. One day later he is hives free, he'll still need to take the steroids for another 10 days, but hopefully they'll be gone for good.

While researching hives I found they are either caused by allergy or stress. As I bought and moved JT to our barn only 3 days before he broke out, it was probably a combination of both. The reason I waited so long with the medication was that I was hoping to figure out what caused them, but a lot of articles state that often you don't find out and they don't come back. That's what I'm hoping for.

Waiting a little bit shouldn't hurt and in most cases they disappear without medication, but if they don't go away your vet will probably give him steroids too..
 

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It sounds like he's got hives, especially if he's rolling (itching) alot...hives don't generally 'hurt' persay, but they can itch like crazy!

My mom's Arab got them every spring, for several years, and we never treated them, just kept an eye on them, and they were usually gone in 2-3 days. He hasn't gotten them in years, now, so I'm guessing his body finally got accustomed to whatever he was allergic to.

Anahist is an OTC allergy 'med' for horses; you may want to see if you can get a hold of some of this, and see if it doesn't help him; obviously if he still has them in a few days, you may need to get him checked out by a vet, as he may need something stronger to get rid of them.
 

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knaskedov,
they aren't as big as the pics show, they are only about 2 cm out from his skin. And there arn't as many

he is not rolling a whole heap, just occasionaly more tham normal.
 

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They look a lot bigger than they are because he is in full winter coat right now. 2 cm sounds about right, he had small round ones and larger flat ones (up to 5 cm wide). JT didn't itch at all, all they really did was look bad, but the vet was worried about what was going on on the inside, the things you cannot see.

mom2pride's story sounds familiar unfortunately, I've been told JT's mom (full Arab as well) has seasonal allergies too...
 

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okay then. i'll call the vet tomorrow if it hasn't gone down. is it anything serious?
 

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i checked on him this morning, and the lumps on his shoulder are almost completely gone. The biggest lump on his stomache has over havled its origianal size. is it still nessesary to call the vet?
 

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I waited a week before the vet saw him, but that was because I already had the appointment scheduled (pre-purchase). After that I waited another 2 before I gave up and got the steroids.
I believe that if they go away by themselves and that is what it sounds like, you don't need the vet.
You do probably want to write the dates down and where he was when it happened, maybe take some pictures. Should it come back, at least you know when and where he had them before.
 

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cool. thank you everyone!
 

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I'm still looking into causes and found this today:

The most common allergic reaction that horses experience typically manifests as hives on the skin all over the body. The causative agent of an episode of hives generally goes unknown, but it can be one of a wide variety of things. Among causes of hives are toxic/irritating compounds in a variety of plants, the stings or bites of various insects, and a variety of chemical compounds. In addition, reactions from ingested or inhaled substances to which the animal is sensitive can be a cause of hives, or more severe allergic reactions.

Generally, the development of hives causes no health danger and is of no significance (unless, of course, they are all over a conformation horse the night before the show!). It often is a one-time occurrence and frequently will resolve spontaneously without treatment. On rare occasions, hives will be a leading sign of a more severe allergic reaction that will require immediate medical attention. A horse with hives should be evaluated carefully and have its temperature, heart rate, and respiratory rate determined and sequentially monitored. The respiratory rate and heart rate are particularly important, and if elevated, could indicate a more severe allergic reaction. Veterinary assistance should be sought immediately.

Here is the link to the full article:
The Horse | Allergic Reactions in Horses
 

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okay, well they have left within 2 days, so no vet was needed thyankfully. thank you everyone for youre help!
 

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I'm glad that it worked out well. In the future you might try to watch if he comes into contact with something different and the bumps show up again. That might give you an idea of what the allergy is from.
 
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