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I'm curious to what you guys think about this reining stud?

Thanks!




Spooks Gotta Gun : AQHA-APHA Bay Overo Stallion

Here's the link to his photos
Hicks Quarter Horses Photo Gallery

And a video

There are a few more videos on youtube if you want to look.

We're considering him to my mare
Here's a few pictures and her pedigree :)

Footworks Wonder Quarter Horse




On a little bit of a side note after you tell me what you think of him, what color to you think I'll get and you can guess on markings too ahah :)
 

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Love his bottom side. You are not going to find a better bottom side. Very strong which is one thing I really look for.
 

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Thanks! I wish I could find the Reining by the Bay video of him he looked MUCH better, but someone took it off youtube ahha :(

I'm excited for this baby, she's all under lights so hopefully we'll be breeding mid march!

I agree too about the bottom side I LOVE that his dam is extremely strong.
 

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I really like him.

My old trainer has a coming 4yr old mare out of him and she's a pretty fantastic mare. She's got a great work ethic.
 

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Thats what I like to hear!!! =P. If its quiet enough I might ask to be the first one on it and stuff ... however thats not something I'm into so it may be my trainer ahha.

I have a feeling my trainer and I are going to be fighting over this one =P
 

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I don't know much about QHs, but I can give you a guess as to color and markings.

The foal will either be bay, chestnut, or black. It's a 50/50 shot as to whether he'll be overo or solid. But that could be a little different, depending on whether he's Ee or EE, whether he's Aa or AA, whether he's heterozygous or homozygous for splash, and whether your mare is aa, Aa, or AA.

As for markings... Markings are determined in part by environmental factors, so you really have no way of knowing.



Here are a few of his babies...









7 of his foals are registered as Paints and 23 of them are registered as Quarter Horses.
 

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I have a feeling my trainer and I are going to be fighting over this one =P
You NEVER fight a good trainer over a Open caliber prospect. There will be time for you to ride the horse once it is done wining in the open. I know from personal experience.
 

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I agree, I'm staying away from my mare until my trainer is done with her.

She's got much more know how and showmanship then I have and she knows the horse much better than I do at this point.
 

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Doesn't deafness run in those bloodlines?
 

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He is pretty to look at but seriously built down hill. Is down hill something you want in a reining horse?
 

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Hm.. I guess my argument is that deafness is an inherited trait from the parents (i.e. it's a gene carried by one/both parents that becomes a dominant trait in the foal that is deaf) and therefore is a pedigree problem, i.e. through genes.
You could look at it this way:
NOT ALL bald faced horses are deaf, therefore when you get a bald faced horse, you are NOT guaranteed that it's deaf. IF 100% of bald faced (patterned) horses were deaf, then I would agree that it's a pattern problem.
HOWEVER, since not ALL bald faced horses are deaf, that leads me to believe that it is a genetic problem, NOT a color problem.
I believe it is the close proximity of the colour gene loci is relation to one of the deafness mutation genes, which would make some people think that it's color-related, but it's not, it's just color ASSOCIATED. *
Does that make sense?

(Think of it this way.... not all white cats are deaf... but some are. White =/= deaf; the gene = deaf, it just so happens that the color is associated with it.)



*source: Cashew (on this forum) better known as a Zoology major offline :)
 

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The color is not the CAUSE of the hearing problems.

Exactly. I guess what I'm saying is that while it might be color associated, it is not caused by the coloration.
I would be very interested in reading up on it more, to see if certain genes crop up. Just like I said, not all white cats are deaf, but some are (Rich and my little kitty included). Saying that something is dependent on color is untrue, rather it's just an association with certain gene loci for color being associated with another gene loci for deafness.
This have piqued my interest, that's for sure.
 

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I believe it is not just bald faces but a certain pattern of bald face that you see deafness in. If it was a simple as a simple gene then you would see more solid colored Gunners deaf and you do not. The ones that are all have the same face markings as he dose. Normally very close if not hitting the ear. While it is most likely not just the color but more where it is located on the face it makes it more complicated then a simple gene.
 
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