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I was expecting a foal this year, but the mare lost it. I have been looking for one to purchase and found a wonderful foal. The mother has strange spinal conformation. the owner doesn't know details other than she was told it was hunters bump. It doesn't look like the few cases of HB i have seen. i would only buy the foal, but want to make sure that the mare's conformation is not genetic. any ideas?
filly and momma left pictures from home & garden photos on webshots
 

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I have never seen it that pronounced before, but I'm wondering if the slight sway back (from baby's) and the baby belly are making it look like more then it is?
 

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That's a roach back and it is a conformational flaw, not something that can build up over time.

It definatley could be passed on to the foal, but like any trait, the foal could have avoided it. I never understood why people breed mares like this. However, roach backs are genetic and it is passed on by one of the parents.
 

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That is about as severe as I've seen in a hunter's bump. I'm not sure if there is a difference between a hunter's bump and a roach back but they seem to look the same.

As for the foal, I'm not sure when or if the deformity will appear but a vet would be a good person to ask. What is the breeding of the foal and the mare? I'd like to know if the mare always had this or if it developed from use. In any case, on a personal note, it was very foolish to breed that mare and I would most likely avoid the foal.
 

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breeding on mare

while the baby is a paint, the pictured momma is all QH. She is Zan Parr Bar and Biankus bred. Both horses are producers of athletes. I saw many pictures of momma and didn't notice anything until this side view.
 

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This is a severe roach back! I don't believe this to be a hunter bump because the sacrial (sp?) region is back further. The pelvis and the spine are not connected by joints but by ligaments and a hunter bump injury involves that particular ligament. most hunter bumps are usually bumps on the highest point of their butt.. or it looks like one butt muscle is higher than the other.

As the other posters said, a roach back is a conformational deformity that could be passed on. However, you should be able to tell if the foal has that or not. Can you see the mares registration papers? or her foal pictures?
 

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I have seen the mare's papers, but the owner only got her recently. She says her vet told her it was probably not genetic. Her 2 mo. old filly is the one I want. I can only afford one horse and it needs to be a usin' horse. I ride a lot and really want a horse that can enjoy all those rides with me. thanks for all the advice.
 

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Yeah I wouldn't buy any baby out of that mare. Getting a back like that isn't fun. And I agree with riccil0ve... she shouldn't have been bred.
 

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Roach for sure. They are genetic, but are made morse through work, being bred, trauma etc. I have seen our chiropractor work absolute miracles on racehorses with roaches. They completely went away. I might avaoid this foal. JMO.
 

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I've seen a saddlebred broodmare with that same condition only worse (if you can believe it), and none of her babies have ever had a problem and I've known her and her foals for years now.
 

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Roach back can happen in a number of factors. I think its only slightly hereditary but can be caused by riding too soon or having a baby too soon. The wait on the spine locks it in place and when the horse grows the spine does not grow right. I've seen it on a couple of horses, some worse then others. The mare that was really bad that I saw it on, her spine could not move like a normal horses. They cannot bend and are not fit for riding, or fit for breeding. They can however do light harness work.
 
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